{"id":10543,"date":"2019-03-18T14:04:45","date_gmt":"2019-03-18T19:04:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/?p=10543"},"modified":"2019-03-18T14:04:45","modified_gmt":"2019-03-18T19:04:45","slug":"donmek-ya-da-donmemek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/donmek-ya-da-donmemek\/","title":{"rendered":"D\u00d6NMEK YA DA D\u00d6NMEMEK"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/cc-turkiye\/z-2013-Images-2\/187-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"417\" height=\"305\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dr. Me\u015ffe\u015f\u015fu Necdet Hatam<br \/>\n<\/strong>CC Forumlar\u0131ndan al\u0131nm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">De\u011ferli Arkada\u015flar,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Anavatana D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesinin bende, ulusal bilin\u00e7lenme ile e\u015f zamanl\u0131 oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyebilirim. Yani lise y\u0131llar\u0131mdan beri hep d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm, d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc ya\u015fad\u0131m, d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc ya\u015f\u0131yorum. Buna kar\u015f\u0131n \u00f6nceleri bu sayfaya yazmaya \u00e7ok s\u0131cak bakmad\u0131m\u2026<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Forum yaz\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 izlemeye ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131mda ilk yaz\u0131 biraz eskimi\u015f, konu da -bana g\u00f6re- \u00f6yle yanl\u0131\u015f bir noktadan ba\u015flat\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ki\u2026 D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f hakk\u0131nda, d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f politikas\u0131 hakk\u0131nda belki hi\u00e7bir \u015fey okumam\u0131\u015f gen\u00e7 arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z Anavatana D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc o kadar rahat mahkum ediyorlar ki ne yazay\u0131m ne s\u00f6yleyeyim deyip ac\u0131 ile g\u00fcl\u00fcms\u00fcyor es ge\u00e7iyordum. Derken anavatana d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc destekleyen arkada\u015flardan yan\u0131tlar geldi. Ancak ben bu yan\u0131tlara kar\u015f\u0131n Say\u0131n Y\u0131lmaz\u2019\u0131n kerameti kendinden menkul yarg\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 do\u011fru sanmaya ba\u015flamas\u0131ndan korktum ve yazmaya karar verdim. Yaz\u0131n\u0131n hemen her c\u00fcmlesi ele\u015ftirilebilecekken kimi b\u00f6l\u00fcmleri g\u00f6rmezden geldim. Yine de bir hayli uzun yazmak zorunda kald\u0131m. \u00d6z\u00fcr diler okuma sabr\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6sterenlere te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim.<\/p>\n<p>Dilerseniz, \u00f6nce y\u00f6ntem \u00fczerinde dural\u0131m biraz:<\/p>\n<p>De\u011ferli arkada\u015flar, belirli bir d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce ele\u015ftirilecekse ele\u015ftiriye temel olmas\u0131 gereken, \u00e7\u0131k\u0131\u015f noktas\u0131 yap\u0131lmas\u0131 gereken \u015fey o d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce savunucular\u0131n\u0131n s\u00f6ylemleri, yaz\u0131lar\u0131 olmal\u0131. Ele\u015ftiriyi yapan ki\u015finin ele\u015ftirdi\u011fi ki\u015filerin s\u00f6ylediklerini, yazd\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131, yapt\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 de\u011fil de, kendi \u00fcretti\u011fi s\u00f6ylemleri temel olarak almas\u0131n\u0131n, nesnellikle, do\u011frulukla, ger\u00e7ek\u00e7ilikle\u2026 ba\u011fda\u015ft\u0131r\u0131labilece\u011fini sanm\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7\u0131kar\u0131mlar, san\u0131ya, \u00f6znel g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fe de\u011fil, mutlaka bilgiye, bilgi, belgeye dayanmal\u0131, gerekti\u011finde de bilgi kaynaklar\u0131 g\u00f6sterilebilmelidir.<\/p>\n<p>Kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131rmalar benzer konularda, ayn\u0131 \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fc birimleri ile ve bilinen anlamlar\u0131 ile yap\u0131lmal\u0131d\u0131r. Kullan\u0131lan terimler, bilimsel anlamlar\u0131 ile kullan\u0131lmal\u0131d\u0131r. \u00d6rne\u011fin, a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131k \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fc birimi olarak grama, t\u00fcm d\u00fcnyan\u0131n verdi\u011fi anlam\u0131n verilmesi nas\u0131l bir zorunluluk ise, asimilasyon, anadili kullanma \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc, etnisite, ulus vb terimler de bilimin anlay\u0131p anlatt\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi alg\u0131lanmal\u0131 kendimize \u00f6zg\u00fc anlamlar verilmemelidir..<\/p>\n<p>Sorunun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc konusunda sorumluluk duyuluyorsa, benimsenmeyen g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fler, sadece ele\u015ftirilmekle kal\u0131nmamal\u0131, \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm \u00f6nerileri de sunulmal\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p>Sosyolojik olaylar\u0131n ki\u015filere, ki\u015filerin d\u00fcnya g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerine g\u00f6re, alg\u0131lama d\u00fczeylerine g\u00f6re, farkl\u0131 alg\u0131lanabilece\u011fi hep g\u00f6z \u00f6n\u00fcnde bulundurulmal\u0131d\u0131r. \u00d6rne\u011fin \u201cnerede olursan ol, ne yaparsan yap, nas\u0131l sahip olursan ol, ama mutlaka paral\u0131 ol \u201c gibi bir yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 d\u00fcnya g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc olarak se\u00e7mi\u015f birine, anadilin g\u00fczelli\u011fi, korunmas\u0131 geli\u015ftirilmesi gerekti\u011finin anlat\u0131lamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131n bilincinde olunmal\u0131d\u0131r. Yada dini inanc\u0131n\u0131n gereklerini yerine getirmeyi ya\u015fam\u0131n amac\u0131 olarak se\u00e7mi\u015f ( g\u00fcnl\u00fck ya\u015fam\u0131nda, dinin gereklerine de bir pay ay\u0131rma gibi dindarl\u0131k de\u011fil demek istedi\u011fim) birine, ulusal-k\u00fclt\u00fcrel de\u011ferleri koruyup geli\u015ftirmenin \u00f6nemi, bunun i\u00e7in \u00f6zveride bulunman\u0131n gereklili\u011finin anlat\u0131lamayaca\u011f\u0131 bilinmelidir\u2026 gibi daha say\u0131labilecek bir \u00e7ok \u015fey.<\/p>\n<p>\u015eimdi bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fler \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131nda, say\u0131n Y\u0131lmaz Berbero\u011flu\u2019nun yaz\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 de\u011ferlendirmeye ba\u015flayal\u0131m:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cD\u00d6NMEK YADA D\u00d6NMEMEK&#8230; \u0130\u015eTE B\u00dcT\u00dcN MESELEM\u0130Z???\u201d denmi\u015f yeni sayfa a\u00e7\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Benim akl\u0131ma ilk gelen soru \u015fu: D\u00f6nmek yada D\u00f6nmemek diasporadaki her \u00c7erkes&#8217;in meselesi olabilir mi? Hepimiz bunu her \u00c7erkes&#8217;in meselesi olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 olamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliriz. K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn yok olu\u015funun rahats\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 duymayan, ulusal k\u00fclt\u00fcrel de\u011ferlerini ya\u015fatmak geli\u015ftirmek gibi bir kayg\u0131s\u0131 olmayan, var oldu\u011funa var olmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fine inanmayan (ki \u00e7evrenizde y\u0131\u011f\u0131nla bulabilirsiniz) \u00c7erkes&#8217;in meselesi olamaz D\u00f6nmek yada d\u00f6nmemek. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f ulusal k\u00fclt\u00fcrel de\u011ferleri koruyup geli\u015ftirmenin gereklili\u011fine inananlar i\u00e7in geli\u015ftirilmi\u015f bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm \u00f6nerisidir. Yani bunu tart\u0131\u015fabilmek i\u00e7in \u00f6nce diasporadaki yok olu\u015fun bir entegrasyon de\u011fil bir asimilasyon oldu\u011funun bilincinde olacaks\u0131n\u0131z. \u00dclkedeki hakim unsurun de\u011ferlerini benimsemenin, entegrasyon olarak adland\u0131r\u0131labilesi i\u00e7in, de\u011ferleri yok olan halka da de\u011ferlerini koruma ve geli\u015ftirme hak ve olanaklar\u0131n\u0131n sa\u011flanm\u0131\u015f oldu\u011funu kan\u0131tlayacaks\u0131n\u0131z. Sizin de verdi\u011finiz vergilerden olu\u015fan b\u00fct\u00e7eden sadece hakim unsurun dil ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn geli\u015ftirildi\u011finin, kendi paran\u0131zla asimile edildi\u011finizin bilincinde olacaks\u0131n\u0131z.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">En \u00f6nemlisi de bu yok olu\u015fa dur deme iste\u011finiz olacak, bunun i\u00e7in kimi \u00f6zverilerde bulunmaya haz\u0131r olacaks\u0131n\u0131z. K\u0131saca inanc\u0131n\u0131z olacak.<br \/>\nTerimleri bilimsel anlamlar\u0131 ile kullan\u0131lmad\u0131\u011f\u0131, olgular, ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i boyutlar\u0131 ile g\u00f6r\u00fclmedi\u011fi s\u00fcrece, giri\u015filecek tart\u0131\u015fma sonu\u00e7suz kalmaktan \u00f6teye gidemeyecek, sadece say\u0131n Y\u0131lmaz Berbero\u011flu ve benzerlerini rahatlatma arac\u0131 olabilecektir, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesini ta\u015f\u0131yorum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201cNedense baz\u0131 karde\u015flerimiz \u00c7erkeslerin ve \u00c7erkesli\u011fin kurtulu\u015funu geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015fte aramakta ve bunu gerek\u00e7elendirirken &#8220;Anavatanda ya\u015faman\u0131n, \u00c7erkesleri asimilasyondan koruman\u0131n en etkin yolu olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 vurgulamaktalar. Herkesin kendi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc olacakt\u0131r. Do\u011fald\u0131r. Sayg\u0131 duyuyorum. Ancak Kat\u0131lm\u0131yorum.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Elbette ki bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flere kat\u0131lmama hakk\u0131n\u0131z var say\u0131n Berbero\u011flu. Ancak bir \u00e7ok arkada\u015f\u0131n belirtti\u011fi gibi, kendinizce \u201casimilasyonu \u00f6nlemenin en etkin yolunu\u201d da g\u00f6stermeliydiniz. Bunu yapm\u0131yorsunuz. Kat\u0131lmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fleri sadece ele\u015ftirerek puan toplama y\u00f6ntemi \u00e7ok eskidi bilesiniz.<br \/>\n\u201cEvet bizler \u00f6nce burada asimilasyon \u00fczerinde durmak istiyorum. Almanya&#8217;da, \u00f6\u011frencilik y\u0131llar\u0131mda \u00e7ok\u00e7a tart\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z konulardan biriydi: &#8220;Asimilasyon mu Entegrasyon mu ? San\u0131r\u0131m baz\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n da kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131 kavramlar bunlar. \u0130\u00e7inde ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 topluma uyum sa\u011flamakla o toplum i\u00e7inde erimek-kimli\u011fini kaybetmek ayn\u0131 \u015feyler midir?\u201d elbette de\u011fildir. Ancak bize g\u00f6re bir ba\u015fka toplum i\u00e7inde erimeyi uyumla kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131ran sizsiniz gibi geliyor bize. Hangimizin yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 daha do\u011fru? Dilerseniz bu terimlerin anlam\u0131n\u0131 biraz aray\u0131n, hay\u0131r derseniz birlikte arar\u0131z.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201c\u00c7erkeslerin T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti ile ne zaman sorunlar\u0131 olmu\u015ftur? \u00c7erkesler T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti i\u00e7in ne zaman sorun olmu\u015ftur ? Yorum sizlerin.\u201d Dilini k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc korumak, geli\u015ftirmek k\u0131saca asimilasyonu geciktirmek ad\u0131na \u00f6rg\u00fctsel d\u00fczeyde hi\u00e7bir \u015fey istemeyen bir toplumun devletle ne sorunu olabilir. Buna kar\u015f\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti\u2019nin \u00c7erkeslerle sorunu oldu\u011fu d\u00f6nemler olmu\u015ftur. Kurtulu\u015f sava\u015f\u0131 sonras\u0131 Manyas ve G\u00f6nen \u00e7evresi \u00c7erkes k\u00f6ylerinin s\u00fcrg\u00fcn\u00fc buna bir \u00f6rnektir. Hem \u00c7erkeslerin k\u00fclt\u00fcrel varl\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 koruyup geli\u015ftirme hak ve olanaklar\u0131 konusunda devletten bir \u015fey istememeleri, bu sorunlar\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc anlam\u0131na m\u0131 gelir.<br \/>\n\u201c\u00d6te yandan; atalar\u0131m\u0131z bu \u00fclkeye turistik gezi yapmaya gelmediler. Giri\u015fte, tart\u0131\u015fmaya s\u00f6ylenmemi\u015fleri s\u00f6ylenmi\u015f gibi temel alman\u0131n yanl\u0131\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemi\u015ftik. Atalar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n bu \u00fclkeye turistik gezi i\u00e7in geldi\u011fini iddia eden, bizim bilmedi\u011fimiz bir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f m\u00fc var. Ki bunu s\u00f6ylemek gere\u011fi duyuyorsunuz?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Biz yenilmi\u015f ancak teslim olmam\u0131\u015f bir avu\u00e7 insanlar\u0131n torunlar\u0131y\u0131z\u201d izninizle buraya zul\u00fcm g\u00f6ren bir ba\u015fka halka uygun g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcz ve sizin de kat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z \u00c7erkes olmayan birinin de\u011ferlendirmesini de alay\u0131m: \u201c Bir, Saddam zulm\u00fcnden ka\u00e7\u0131p T\u00fcrk s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131na y\u0131\u011f\u0131lan K\u00fcrtlere, bir de &#8220;Rus askerlerine sar\u0131l\u0131p kendini u\u00e7urumdan atan&#8221; \u00c7erkes kad\u0131n ve \u00e7ocuklar\u0131na bak\u0131n. (Son ifade bir \u0130ngiliz b\u00fcy\u00fckel\u00e7isinin kitab\u0131nda mevcuttur, yani yazar ne T\u00fcrk ne de \u00c7erkes&#8217;tir.)\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m kadar\u0131 ile siz demek istiyorsunuz ki say\u0131n Y\u0131lmaz; \u201czul\u00fcmden ka\u00e7anlar \u00c7erkes ise Osmanl\u0131 s\u0131n\u0131rlar\u0131na y\u0131\u011f\u0131lmalar\u0131 teslim olmamak i\u00e7in se\u00e7tikleri onurlu bir yol. Binlerce y\u0131ll\u0131k vatanlar\u0131n terk etmelerinin nedeni \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011fe olan tutkular\u0131 \u201d ama zul\u00fcmden ka\u00e7an K\u00fcrtler ise \u201cT\u00fcrk s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131na y\u0131\u011f\u0131lmalar\u0131n\u0131n nedeni y\u00fcreksiz olu\u015flar\u0131\u201d \u00e7ifte standard\u0131n bu kadar\u0131na bilmem ne demeli\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201cKafkaslarda \u015fu an &#8220;tarihi bir \u015fans eseri&#8221; \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckler vard\u0131r. \u0130nsanlar\u0131n \u00f6lmeleri herhalde ho\u015f kar\u015f\u0131lanamaz ama &#8220;Bedelsiz Kazan\u0131lan De\u011ferlerin De\u011feri Olamaz!&#8221;\u201d diyebiliyorsunuz gayet rahatl\u0131kla. Bence sizi bu kadar keskin konu\u015fturan cehaletinizdir. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Say\u0131n Y\u0131lmaz,: Sadece Ko\u015fhable\u2019den ulusalc\u0131 olduklar\u0131 i\u00e7in bir gecede g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcl\u00fcp geri gelmeyenlerin say\u0131s\u0131 tam 270 ki\u015fidir (iki y\u00fcz yetmi\u015f). Ve bug\u00fcn politika, bilim, dil, k\u00fclt\u00fcr alan\u0131ndaki ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 insanlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n, \u00f6\u011f\u00fcnebilece\u011fimiz b\u00fct\u00fcn de\u011ferlerimizi (siz diasporadakilerin dahil) koruyan geli\u015ftiren insanlar\u0131n en az y\u00fczde yetmi\u015fi, yetim b\u00fcy\u00fcm\u00fc\u015f, hayatlar\u0131n\u0131n bir d\u00f6neminde otlarla, a\u011fa\u00e7 kabuklar\u0131 ile beslenmek durumunda kalm\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. Dilerseniz bir de \u00fcretim y\u00f6n\u00fcnden,. \u00f6rne\u011fin derlenip gelece\u011fe miras b\u0131rak\u0131lan s\u00f6ylence say\u0131s\u0131, anadilde yaz\u0131lan \u015fiir yay\u0131mlanan kitap say\u0131s\u0131, bestelenen eser say\u0131s\u0131, bunlar\u0131 geli\u015ftiren grup say\u0131s\u0131\u2026vb. konularda say\u0131lar\u0131 ancak y\u00fcz binlerle ifade edilen \u201cbedel \u00f6dememi\u015f\u201d lerle, kimilerine g\u00f6re yedi milyonu (!) bulan T\u00fcrkiye diasporas\u0131n\u0131 bir kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131ral\u0131m. Yada daha yenilerde vatan savunmas\u0131nda Abhazya i\u00e7in her \u015feylerini vermeye haz\u0131r olan, veren anavatan insan\u0131 ile, masa ba\u015f\u0131nda, sanal ortamda vatan kurtaran, anavatandakilere yol y\u00f6ntem \u00f6neren, ancak, ge\u00e7in bir maa\u015f tutar\u0131n\u0131 vermeyi, elbise eskilerini verirken bile elleri titreyen diasporadakileri bir kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131r\u0131n. Alaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z sonu\u00e7lardan sonra, bilmem, yine b\u00f6yle \u00fcst perdeden konu\u015fabilir miydiniz? Hadi bir de spek\u00fclasyon yapal\u0131m: Anavatan kesimi bug\u00fcne kadar hi\u00e7bir bedel \u00f6demedilerse bile, siz ve sizin gibilerin \u201ctu-kaka\u201d olarak tan\u0131mlad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z anavatanda bug\u00fcnlerde de ya\u015fama bedelini \u00f6demiyorlar m\u0131? Anavatan\u0131 sadece uzaktan seven sizlerin k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcmseyen s\u00f6zlerini okumaya, dinlemeye katlanm\u0131yorlar m\u0131? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Bu konuda daha \u00e7ok \u015fey s\u00f6ylenebilir ama \u00f6zetle bilinmesi gereken; diasporada ulusal k\u00fclt\u00fcrel hak kazan\u0131m\u0131 m\u00fccadelesinde bir \u00fcyesi \u00f6l\u00fcm cezas\u0131 alan, yada zindanlarda \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fclen tek bir aile g\u00f6sterilemezken, anavatanda b\u00f6yle bir bedel \u00f6dememi\u015f tek bir ailenin olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r.<br \/>\nGer\u00e7ekten de \u201cbedelsiz kazan\u0131lan de\u011ferlerin de\u011feri olmaz\u201d ama \u00fcz\u00fcc\u00fc olan, 140 y\u0131l\u0131 a\u015fk\u0131n diaspora ya\u015fam\u0131nda, var olmak i\u00e7in ciddi hi\u00e7bir bedel \u00f6dememi\u015f olanlar\u0131n, anavatan\u0131n bug\u00fcnlere, her g\u00fcn bedel \u00f6denerek getirildi\u011fini g\u00f6rememeleridir. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201dUnutmayal\u0131m, Ruslar d\u00fczenli \u00c7erkes ordular\u0131n\u0131 yenmediler. Organize olmam\u0131\u015f do\u011fru d\u00fcr\u00fcst devlet k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc olmayan, ancak gerilla sava\u015f\u0131 verebilen bir avu\u00e7 insan\u0131 yendiler. Ac\u0131 da olsa ger\u00e7ek bu. Amac\u0131m kendi de\u011ferlerimi k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcmsemek de\u011fil, yanl\u0131\u015f anla\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131n ama olmayan \u015feylerle avunmay\u0131 da anlaml\u0131 bulmuyorum.\u201d Kusura kalmay\u0131n ama Burada Ruslar\u0131 m\u0131 yoksa \u00c7erkesler mi k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcmsedi\u011finizi anlayamad\u0131m. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201d Atalar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n s\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fckleri topraklar bir \u00e7ok insan\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7in &#8220;\u00e7ok uzak bir an\u0131&#8221; olmaktan \u00f6teye gidiyor mu ?\u201d Atalar\u0131n\u0131n s\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fckleri topraklar \u201c\u00e7ok uzak bir an\u0131\u201d olanlar i\u00e7in emin olun \u201cbir zamanlar \u00c7erkes olduklar\u0131\u201d \u00e7ok daha uzak bir an\u0131d\u0131r. L\u00fctfen rahats\u0131z olmas\u0131nlar. Yukar\u0131da belirtti\u011fim gibi \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131m\u0131z onlara de\u011fildir, \u201cben var\u0131m, var olmal\u0131y\u0131m\u201d diyenleredir.. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201cYahudi lobilerinin varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bilmeyenimiz var m\u0131? Biz neden ayn\u0131 mant\u0131\u011f\u0131 uygulamayal\u0131m? \u00d6nemli olan bulunulan yerlerde de\u011ferli insanlar yeti\u015ftirmek, s\u00f6z sahibi olmakt\u0131r. Ben lobilerin varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyorum, bilmeyen oldu\u011funu da sanm\u0131yorum. Ama siz anavatan\u0131na dudak b\u00fcken, bug\u00fcne kadar evi bekleyen karde\u015flerini k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcmseyen, anavatan\u0131 ile ilgilenmeyen, imkan\u0131 oldu\u011fu halde anavatan\u0131n\u0131 gezmeye gitmeyen,vatanda\u015f\u0131 olabilme f\u0131rsat\u0131n\u0131 elinin s\u0131rt\u0131 ile iten, bulundu\u011fu \u00fclkelerde politikaya kar\u0131\u015fmamaya \u00f6zen g\u00f6steren. Y\u00fcz\u00fcn\u00fc anavatana d\u00f6n\u00fcnce sadece politika konu\u015fan, hari\u00e7ten gazel okuyan ba\u015fka diaspora biliyor musunuz? Hem bu lobilerin olabilmesi i\u00e7in lobisi oldu\u011fu merkezlerin de g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc olmas\u0131, yeterli n\u00fcfuslar\u0131n\u0131n olmas\u0131 gerekmez mi? Avrupa\u2019daki T\u00fcrklerin arkas\u0131nda sizce T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti\u2019nin deste\u011fi yok mu?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201cBilgi insano\u011flunun en b\u00fcy\u00fck silah\u0131d\u0131r. Biz bilgili insanlar olduk\u00e7a hi\u00e7 bir \u015fey bizi yok edemez, m\u00fcsterih olal\u0131m.\u201d \u00c7ok do\u011fru. Ben de bu yarg\u0131n\u0131za y\u00fcrekten kat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131m i\u00e7in m\u00fcsterihim zaten. Biliyorum ki siz bile bilgisizce kalem oynatt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z konular hakk\u0131nda yeterince bilgi sahibi oldu\u011funuzda belki anavatana d\u00f6nmeyecek ama &#8220;Anavatanda ya\u015faman\u0131n, \u00c7erkesleri asimilasyondan koruman\u0131n en etkin yolu olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131\u201d vurgulamaya ba\u015flayacaks\u0131n\u0131z. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201c\u00d6te yandan, 70 Milyon&#8217;luk, ayr\u0131ca tarihten gelen k\u00f6kleriyle de bir d\u00fcnya devletinin vatanda\u015f\u0131 olmak kime ne kaybettirir?\u201d Burada da d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00e7\u00fclerin hi\u00e7 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmedi\u011fi bir \u015feyi onlar\u0131n g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc imi\u015f gibi sundunuz, elbette ki ay\u0131p ettiniz. T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti\u2019nin vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00e7\u00fcler olarak \u00f6nemsemesek gece g\u00fcnd\u00fcz \u00e7ifte vatanda\u015fl\u0131k sa\u011flanmas\u0131 \u00e7abas\u0131n\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fcr m\u00fcy\u00fcz? Platformlara, sitelere sizleri k\u0131zd\u0131rmak pahas\u0131na \u201cBizce, iki kom\u015fu ve b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00fclkenin temel politikalar\u0131na ters politika se\u00e7erek de\u011fil, iki kom\u015fu ve b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00fclke aras\u0131nda dostluk k\u00f6pr\u00fcs\u00fc olabildi\u011fimiz; ekonomik, ticari, k\u00fclt\u00fcrel ili\u015fkilerini geli\u015ftirmelerine katk\u0131da bulunabildi\u011fimiz \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde ulusal k\u00fclt\u00fcrel de\u011ferlerimizi koruyabilece\u011fimizi, geli\u015ftirebilece\u011fimizi, anavatan\u0131m\u0131zla sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 ili\u015fkiler kurabilece\u011fimizi, isteyenlerin d\u00f6nebilece\u011fini, d\u00f6nenlerin daha rahat edece\u011fini, diasporadakilerin bir g\u00f6revinin de anavatandaki karde\u015flerine, d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f yapan karde\u015flerine zarar vermemek oldu\u011funu g\u00f6rmek, g\u00f6rmek isteyen g\u00f6z i\u00e7in \u00e7ok zor olmasa gerek.\u201d \u0130\u00e7erikli yaz\u0131lar yazar m\u0131y\u0131z? Ama bu konu sizin i\u00e7in \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli ise e\u011fer her y\u0131l, \u015fimdilik anavatana yerle\u015fme karar\u0131ndaki \u00e7ok az say\u0131daki \u00c7erkes&#8217;i bir kenara b\u0131rak\u0131p, ba\u015fka \u00fclkelere bu arada Amerika&#8217;ya, Rusya Federasyonu\u2019na yerle\u015fen T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti vatanda\u015f\u0131 T\u00fcrklere propaganda yapman\u0131z gerekiyor. Bunu yapmayacak olsan\u0131z bile \u00e7ok ak\u0131ll\u0131ca sand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z bu yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fcrseniz, \u201c150 milyonluk, ayr\u0131ca tarihten gelen k\u00f6kleri ile bir d\u00fcnya devletinin vatanda\u015f\u0131 olmak daha \u00e7ok \u015fey kazand\u0131rabilir\u201d yan\u0131t\u0131n\u0131 alabilirsiniz.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201cBen kendimi k\u00fclt\u00fcrel olarak &#8220;\u00c7erkes&#8221; etnik olarak &#8220;T\u00fcrk&#8221; hissediyorum.1864 bana ne denli h\u00fcz\u00fcn veriyorsa, \u00c7anakkale ya da 26 A\u011fustos da o denli gururland\u0131r\u0131yor&#8230;Ve kimse k\u0131zmas\u0131n ama ay-y\u0131ld\u0131zl\u0131 bayrak bana yerk\u00fcre \u00fczerindeki her \u015feyden daha de\u011ferli geliyor.\u201d De\u011ferli karde\u015fim, ilk c\u00fcmlenizi bir dil s\u00fcr\u00e7mesi olarak de\u011ferlendiriyorum. Yoksa ki\u015finin annesini kendisinin se\u00e7emedi\u011fi gibi, etnik konumunu da kendisinin se\u00e7emedi\u011fini bilemeyecek kadar konunun cahili olmazs\u0131n\u0131z. Ancak ki\u015fi kendini, k\u00fclt\u00fcrel olarak bir ba\u015fka halktan sayabilir. Bunu da normal kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 sadece bu sitede \u00e7e\u015fitli sayfalarda defalarca yazm\u0131\u015f oldum. Ancak burada da D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnenleri T\u00fcrk d\u00fc\u015fman\u0131ym\u0131\u015f gibi g\u00f6sterme \u00e7aban\u0131z\u0131 anlamak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil. Giri\u015fte s\u00f6yledi\u011fim gibi ele\u015ftirilerinize, D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc savunan insanlar\u0131n yaz\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 temel alman\u0131z gerekiyor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201dBu arada, ge\u00e7enlerde bir yaz\u0131 okumu\u015ftum, karde\u015fimizin biri \u00c7erkes k\u00f6kenli oldu\u011funu bir ay \u00f6nce \u00f6\u011frenmi\u015f. Bu insan\u0131 hangi anavatana g\u00f6t\u00fcreceksiniz, ge\u00e7 de olsa k\u00fclt\u00fcrel olarak farkl\u0131 kimli\u011fini \u00f6\u011frenmi\u015f bu insan\u0131n bulundu\u011fu toplumdan ba\u015fka yerde rahat edebilece\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebiliyor musunuz ? B\u00f6yle insanlara seslenmedi\u011fimizin alt\u0131n\u0131 bir kez daha \u00e7iziyorum. D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f i\u00e7in ki\u015filerin kendileri istekli olmal\u0131d\u0131r. \u00c7ok kolay olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 bilinmelidir. Anavatan i\u00e7in ulusal ya\u015fam i\u00e7in, sizlerin g\u00f6rmezden gelebilece\u011fi kimi bedelleri \u00f6demeye haz\u0131r olmal\u0131d\u0131r. Anavatanda T\u00fcrkiye yanl\u0131s\u0131, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Rus yanl\u0131s\u0131 dahas\u0131 Rus u\u015fa\u011f\u0131 yaftalar\u0131na katlanabilmelidir\u2026 gibi..<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201cSon olarak; k\u00fclt\u00fcrel de\u011ferlerimizi yitirmemek elbette g\u00f6revimiz olmal\u0131d\u0131r.\u201d De\u011ferli karde\u015fim \u00e7a\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda neyi nas\u0131l yapaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 s\u00f6ylemedi\u011finizde s\u00f6yledi\u011finiz en g\u00fczel \u015feyin bile hi\u00e7bir \u00f6nemi olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, dahas\u0131 \u00f6nerenin \u00f6nerisinde samimi olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 anlam\u0131na geldi\u011fini art\u0131k bilmeniz gerekmiyor mu? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u201dAncak ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u00fclkeye sahip \u00e7\u0131kmal\u0131, onun g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fcn bizim g\u00fcc\u00fcm\u00fcz oldu\u011funu da unutmamal\u0131y\u0131z. Biz burada ne denli g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc ve etkili olursak, Kafkaslar da ya\u015fayan insanlar\u0131m\u0131za o denli yarar\u0131m\u0131z olacakt\u0131r.\u201d \u0130nan\u0131n y\u00fczde y\u00fcz kat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f. Hem de anavatan taraf\u0131na da uyarlanabilecek do\u011fru bir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f. Yani Anavatan olarak ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u00fclkeye, yani Rusya Federasyonu\u2019na sahip \u00e7\u0131kmal\u0131, onun g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fcn bizim g\u00fcc\u00fcm\u00fcz oldu\u011funu da unutmamal\u0131y\u0131z. Burada ne kadar g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc ve etkili olursak, diasporada ya\u015fayan insanlar\u0131m\u0131za o denli yarar\u0131m\u0131z olacakt\u0131r. \u00d6rne\u011fin yerel televizyonlar\u0131m\u0131z diasporadan izlenebilse fena m\u0131 olur?\u2026 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Sayg\u0131 bizden efendim\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Yaz\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n hakaret i\u00e7ermemesi konusunda \u00e7ok duyarl\u0131 olanlara, Azmi Berbero\u011flu kanal\u0131 ile birka\u00e7 s\u00f6z\u00fcm var.:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">De\u011ferli Karde\u015fim, duyarl\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131za kat\u0131lmamak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil. Ancak sayg\u0131s\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131, ahlak kurallar\u0131na uymamay\u0131, sadece hakaret s\u00f6zc\u00fckleri ile s\u0131n\u0131rland\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyor ve bu anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 \u00e7ok ilkel buluyorum. Uygar insanlar\u0131n onur anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 ile ilkel kalanlar\u0131n onur ve hakaret anlay\u0131\u015flar\u0131 epeyce farkl\u0131la\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r \u00e7a\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda. \u00d6rne\u011fin sizce; <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Birka\u00e7 d\u00f6n\u00fcm tarlas\u0131 i\u015fgal edildi\u011fi i\u00e7in kavga \u00e7\u0131karan, k\u00fcf\u00fcr eden, \u015fans\u0131 k\u00f6t\u00fcyse cinayet i\u015fleyen biri mi daha onurludur, her g\u00fcn erozyonla giden vatan topraklar\u0131n\u0131 korumak i\u00e7in erozyona kar\u015f\u0131 m\u00fccadele eden mi?<br \/>\n\u00c7\u00f6plerini bah\u00e7esine d\u00f6kt\u00fc\u011f\u00fc i\u00e7in kom\u015fusuna av t\u00fcfe\u011fi ile ate\u015f a\u00e7an biri mi daha cesurdur, onuruna d\u00fc\u015fk\u00fcnd\u00fcr, tutuklanma tehlikesine kar\u015f\u0131n, i\u015fini g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fc b\u0131rak\u0131p denizin kirletilmesine kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kanlar, nehri kirleten fabrikat\u00f6rlere kar\u015f\u0131, kelle koltukta m\u00fccadele edenler mi?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Birine enayi demek mi daha b\u00fcy\u00fck hakarettir, t\u00fcm toplumu enayi yerine koymak m\u0131? 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