{"id":11550,"date":"2019-03-26T10:42:42","date_gmt":"2019-03-26T15:42:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/?p=11550"},"modified":"2019-03-26T10:42:42","modified_gmt":"2019-03-26T15:42:42","slug":"kafkaslilar-ve-kizilderililer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/kafkaslilar-ve-kizilderililer\/","title":{"rendered":"KAFKASLILAR VE KIZILDER\u0130L\u0130LER"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/cc-turkiye\/z-2013-Images-2\/445.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"417\" height=\"305\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><b> <span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">GHUNEKHO Savs\u0131r \u00d6zbay<\/span><br \/>\n<\/b> 10 Eyl\u00fcl 2009<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Tarihin olu\u015fumu i\u00e7erisinde bir \u00e7ok uluslar yok olurken, bir \u00e7ok yeni uluslarda ortaya \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Yok olan uluslar\u0131n kal\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcze de\u011fin ula\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r da. D\u00fcnyan\u0131n de\u011fi\u015fen yap\u0131s\u0131na uygun olarak toplumlarda b\u00f6l\u00fcnmelerde meydana gelir. Bu b\u00f6l\u00fcnme do\u011fal ve zoraki g\u00f6\u00e7ler sonucunda baz\u0131lar\u0131 yok olur, baz\u0131lar\u0131 da de\u011fi\u015fik toplummu\u015f gibi ba\u015fka yerde ortaya \u00e7\u0131kar. Ancak, bu toplumlar\u0131n ba\u011fl\u0131 oldu\u011fu uluslar vard\u0131r. Bunlar\u0131 da inan\u00e7lar\u0131ndan, kemik, kan ve fizyonomik yap\u0131lar\u0131ndan anlamaktay\u0131z. \u0130\u015fte bunlardan biride K\u0131z\u0131lderililerdir.<\/p>\n<p>Kimdir bu K\u0131z\u0131lderililer?Tarihin ge\u00e7 tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131 Pasifik ve Amerika\u2019n\u0131n ilk yerlileri mi? Yoksa ba\u015fka yerlerden mi buraya gelmi\u015flerdir? Gelmi\u015flerse nereden, hangi yolla ve hangi tarihlerde? Biliminsanlar\u0131 bu sorular\u0131n yan\u0131tlar\u0131n\u0131 bulmak i\u00e7in halen daha \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaktad\u0131rlar. Bu g\u00fcne kadar yap\u0131lan \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar sonunda bunlar\u0131n Kafkasl\u0131larla\u00a0 da ba\u011flant\u0131lar\u0131 saplanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Bizlerde Adigelerle ili\u015fkilerin a\u00e7\u0131klamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fal\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p><b>1) <\/b>4 bin 200 y\u0131ll\u0131k zaman i\u00e7erisine giren bir s\u00fcre\u00e7te Hazar denizinin kuzeyinde toplanan bir gurubun M\u00d6 4000 civar\u0131nda bir kollar \u0130talya\u2019n\u0131n kuzeyine (Etr\u00fcsk) oradan Fransa ve \u0130spanya aras\u0131na (Bask) varm\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. G\u00fcney Almanya\u2019dan (Karaorman) ayr\u0131lan bir kolla Danimarka ve \u0130ngiltere adas\u0131na (Velsh) ge\u00e7erler. Yine Hazar\u2019\u0131n g\u00fcneyinden ba\u015flayan bir ba\u015fka kol Anadolu\u2019dan Balkanlara ge\u00e7erken Erzurum taraflar\u0131ndan ayr\u0131l\u0131p M\u0131s\u0131r\u2019\u0131n g\u00fcneyine kadar inmi\u015flerdir. G\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc gibi Kafkasyal\u0131lar\u0131n g\u00f6\u00e7\u00fc bir \u00e7ok y\u00f6ne olmu\u015ftur. Bu g\u00f6\u00e7ler sonunda bunlar\u0131n bir\u00e7oklar\u0131 kaybolurken kalanlardan biride Basklard\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p><b>2) <\/b>M\u00d6 5800 ila 1000 aras\u0131nda kuzey Aryanlar Avrupa, Kafkasya ve kuzey Afrika, Groenland yolu ile Amerika\u2019n\u0131n do\u011fu sahillerini istila ederler. Kafkasyal\u0131lar\u0131n g\u00f6\u00e7\u00fc hi\u00e7 durmam\u0131\u015f ve kendilerine uygun yerler buluncaya de\u011fin devam etmi\u015ftir. Avrupa k\u0131tas\u0131n\u0131 a\u015farak Amerika\u2019ya ula\u015fan Kafkasyal\u0131lar, Asya \u00fczerinden de Amerika\u2019ya g\u00f6\u00e7 etmi\u015flerdir. Asya \u00fczerinden ge\u00e7erken ki s\u00fcre belli de\u011fil T\u00fcrklerle de birle\u015fmi\u015flerdir. \u0130\u015fte bu nedenle K\u0131z\u0131lderililerin ger\u00e7ek atalar\u0131 Kafkasl\u0131lar m\u0131d\u0131r bilmiyoruz der biliminsanlar\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><b>3) <\/b>Polinozyal\u0131lar bir Kafkas kabilesinden gelmedir.<\/p>\n<p><b>4) <\/b>Polinozyal\u0131lar Kafkasyal\u0131lar\u0131n yak\u0131n akrabalar\u0131d\u0131rlar.<\/p>\n<p><b>5) <\/b>Polinozyal\u0131lar dalgal\u0131 sa\u00e7l\u0131, koyu kahve rengi, \u00e7ekik g\u00f6zl\u00fc, Avrupa\u2019da g\u00f6r\u00fclen bronz renkte Kafkasyal\u0131lard\u0131r. Y\u00fczleri bas\u0131k olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi Asya sar\u0131s\u0131ndan da eser yoktur. Kafkasl\u0131lar\u0131n tipik \u00f6zeliliklerini K\u0131z\u0131lderililerde bulur biliminsanlar\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><b>6) <\/b>Bir biliminsan\u0131 bu alt\u0131 adal\u0131k gurubun i\u00e7ine Kafkasyal\u0131lar\u0131n ince burnunu, mangolon ablak \u00e7ehresini, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fck g\u00f6z kapaklar\u0131n\u0131 bulabiliyoruz.<\/p>\n<p><b>7)<\/b> Tun\u00e7 derililerin meme te\u015fekk\u00fcllerine her derecenin bir alt ve \u00fcst dereceleriyle de ba\u011flant\u0131lar\u0131 bulunmaktad\u0131r. Oset ( Asetin) ve \u00c7erkeslerde daha yedi ya\u015f\u0131ndayken k\u0131z\u0131n v\u00fccuduna ge\u00e7irilip arkadan dikilen deri korse ancak gerdek gecesi damat taraf\u0131ndan \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131l\u0131rd\u0131. K\u0131z\u0131l derililerde Kafkasyal\u0131lar\u0131n bu gelene\u011fi vard\u0131r. Bu gelenek zararl\u0131 oldu\u011fundan Kafkasyal\u0131lar taraf\u0131ndan terkedilmi\u015ftir. Ancak K\u0131z\u0131lderililerde devam etmektedir.<\/p>\n<p><b>8) <\/b>1769\u2019da Taori ve Tahiti movilerini ilk g\u00f6ren Cook\u2019un seyahat arkada\u015f\u0131 ve tan\u0131nm\u0131\u015f biliminsan\u0131 Dr. \u00c7ommer\u00e7on bunlar\u0131 Kafkasyal\u0131 \u00c7erkes ve G\u00fcrc\u00fclerle e\u015fit olduklar\u0131na ve Amerika\u2019ya g\u00f6\u00e7 ettiklerine inand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 iddia eder.<\/p>\n<p><b>9)<\/b> Halen K\u0131z\u0131lderililerin orta Amerika ve Pasifik\u2019tekilerin \u00e7o\u011funu (Polinezyal\u0131lar) Kafkasya\u2019dan bu g\u00fcnk\u00fc yerlerine gelmi\u015f olmalar\u0131 otoritelerce kabul edilmektedir. Kafkasyal\u0131lar ve K\u0131z\u0131lderililerin gelenek ve inan\u00e7lar\u0131ndaki ortak \u00f6zelliklerde dikkat \u00e7ekicidir..<\/p>\n<p><b>10) <\/b>T\u00fcm K\u0131z\u0131lderililerde herhangi bir \u00f6l\u00fcn\u00fcn ad\u0131n\u0131 anmak yasakt\u0131. Bu yasak Kafkasyal\u0131lar ve Hudson Eskimolar\u0131nda da ayn\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p><b>11) <\/b>Kafkasya b\u00f6lgesi d\u00fcnya dillerinin birbirinin \u00fczerine y\u0131\u011f\u0131lmas\u0131 ile ortaya gelmi\u015f diller tepesine benzetilir. Bu dilin en geli\u015fmi\u015f olanlar\u0131 ise \u00c7erkes, Vladikafkas, Lezgi ve G\u00fcrc\u00fc dilleridir. Bu dillerin Bask dili ile ba\u011flant\u0131s\u0131 bilinmekle beraber izleri Pasifik leh\u00e7elerinde de bulunmaktad\u0131r. Kafkas, Bask, Pasifik dillerinin birbirine benzemesi \u00fc\u00e7 ulusun soy birli\u011fini kan\u0131tlamaktad\u0131r. Kafkas dillerinde Adigece ve K\u0131z\u0131lderili Ataba\u015fkan gurubunun dilleri birbirine \u00e7ok benzemektedir.<\/p>\n<p><b>Perut: <\/b>Ataba\u015fkanlar\u0131n bir kol<br \/>\n<b>Per\u0131t veya Perut: <\/b>Adigelerde lider, \u00f6nder anlam\u0131ndad\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p><b>Ttato:<\/b> Ataba\u015fkanlar\u0131n bir kolu<br \/>\n<b>Tate veya Tato:<\/b> Adigece baba anlam\u0131nda.<\/p>\n<p><b>Yuni: <\/b>Ataba\u015fkanlar\u0131n bir kolu<br \/>\n<b>Y\u0131n\u0131: <\/b>Adigece b\u00fcy\u00fck anlam\u0131nda<\/p>\n<p><b>Lenape: <\/b>Ataba\u015fkanlar\u0131n bir kolu<br \/>\n<b>Lenape: <\/b>Adigece isim ve \u00f6nc\u00fc lena anlam\u0131nda.<\/p>\n<p><b>Ya\u011fan: <\/b>Ataba\u015fkanlar\u0131n bir kolu<br \/>\n<b>Ya\u011fan:<\/b> Oset ve Abhazlar aile ve \u015fah\u0131s ismi<\/p>\n<p><b>Kosta:<\/b> Ataba\u015fkanlar\u0131n bir kolu<br \/>\n<b>Kosta: <\/b>Osetlerde \u015fah\u0131s ismi<\/p>\n<p><b>Kelemet:<\/b> Ataba\u015fkanlar\u0131n bir kolu<br \/>\n<b>Khelemet:<\/b> Adige ve Abhazlarda aile ismi<\/p>\n<p><b>Tete: <\/b>Ataba\u015fkan dilinde dede anlam\u0131nda<br \/>\n<b>Tete-Tetej: <\/b>Adige dilinde dede<\/p>\n<p>G\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc gibi Ataba\u015fkan ve Adige dillerinde ve di\u011fer Kafkas dillerinde bir \u00e7ok benzerlikler bulunmaktad\u0131r. Adige ve k\u0131z\u0131l derililer bireylerin konumlar\u0131na g\u00f6re isim verilmektedir. Bu verilen isimler kendilerine ba\u011fl\u0131 olan halk\u0131n ismine de zamanla d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. K\u0131z\u0131lderililerle ilgili \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar devam ettik\u00e7e Kafkasl\u0131larla \u00a0ilgileri de daha da a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa \u00e7\u0131kacakt\u0131r. Bunlar\u0131n soy birlikteli\u011fini 1776\u2019d\u0131r. Camercon&#8217;nun Fransa kral\u0131na verdi\u011fi raporda Polinezyal\u0131lar tertemiz Kafkas halk\u0131ndan ba\u015fka bir \u015fey de\u011fildirler, der.<\/p>\n<p><b> D\u0130PNOTLAR:<br \/>\n1) <\/b>Tun\u00e7 Derililer, s. 52<br \/>\n<b>2) <\/b>A.g.e., s. 104<br \/>\n<b>3) <\/b>A.g.e., s. 104<br \/>\n<b>4) <\/b>A.g.e., s. 103<br \/>\n<b>5) <\/b>A.g.e., s. 105<br \/>\n<b>6) <\/b>A.g.e., s. 130<br \/>\n<b>7) <\/b>A.g.e., s. 69<br \/>\n<b>8) <\/b>A.g.e., s. 43<br \/>\n<b>9)<\/b> A.g.e., s. 43<br \/>\n<b>10) <\/b>A.g.e., s. 266<br \/>\n<b>11)<\/b> A.g.e., s. 352<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><b> OKUYUCU EK\u0130:<\/p>\n<p><\/b><\/span><b> M. Berslan<\/b><br \/>\n17 Eyl\u00fcl 2009<\/p>\n<p>Vermi\u015f oldu\u011funuz bu bilgilerin hi\u00e7bir ge\u00e7erlili\u011fi yoktur. Yani Polinezyal\u0131lar\u0131n ve K\u0131z\u0131lderililerin veyahut di\u011fer kabilelerin &#8221;<b>Kafkas Kabilesi&#8221; <\/b>oldu\u011funu kan\u0131tlar \u015feyler de\u011fildir bunlar. Bunun kan\u0131tlan\u0131labilir olmas\u0131 i\u00e7in, Polinezyal\u0131lar\u0131n ve K\u0131z\u0131lderililerin Kafkasya&#8217;dan nas\u0131l \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve genetik \u015femas\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kartmak gerekir. Polinezyal\u0131lar ne zaman Kafkasya&#8217;dan g\u00f6\u00e7 etmi\u015f ki? \u0130lk gemiyi Polinezyal\u0131lar m\u0131 bulmu\u015f o halde? Ya K\u0131z\u0131lderililer? Bunlar efsane.<\/p>\n<p>Size Jared Diamond&#8217;un &#8216;T\u00fcfek-Mikrop-\u00c7elik&#8217; kitab\u0131n\u0131 okuman\u0131z\u0131 tavsiye ederim. Bu kitapta Polinezyal\u0131larla ve K\u0131z\u0131lderililerle ilgili \u00e7ok detayl\u0131 bilgiler var. Ancak sizinkilerle uyu\u015fmuyor o ayr\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>Ayr\u0131ca, K\u0131z\u0131lderililerin dili ile T\u00fcrk dili aras\u0131nda da bu tarz benzerlikler ortaya \u00e7\u0131kart\u0131ld\u0131, bir\u00e7ok kelime neredeyse t\u0131pa t\u0131p ayn\u0131. Ancak onu da ara\u015ft\u0131rmak laz\u0131m belki de fa\u015fist birisi taraf\u0131ndan uydurulmu\u015fta olabilir.<\/p>\n<p>Bu bahsetti\u011fim kitapta ilk insan\u0131n Afrika\u2019da \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131ndan sonra insan topluluklar\u0131n\u0131n hareketleri -g\u00f6\u00e7leri- yerle\u015ftikleri co\u011frafyaya ba\u011fl\u0131 olarak k\u00fclt\u00fcr de\u011fi\u015fiklikleri gibi \u00e7ok detayl\u0131 bilgiler var. Mesela \u2018\u2019neden Avrupal\u0131lar Amerika\u2019y\u0131 &#8216;i\u015fgal&#8217; (ke\u015fif do\u011fru de\u011fil) etti de Amerikal\u0131lar Avrupa\u2019y\u0131 i\u015fgal etmedi\u2019\u2019 gibi sorular\u0131n cevab\u0131 var. Bug\u00fcn \u00e7o\u011fu biliminsan\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan da kabul g\u00f6ren beyaz \u0131rk\u0131n atas\u0131 &#8216;causoid&#8217; yani &#8216;Kafkas&#8217; \u0131rk\u0131d\u0131r. Bunu da ortaya koyan ilk bilim adam\u0131 da san\u0131r\u0131m alman as\u0131ll\u0131 birisi.<\/p>\n<p>Gene yanl\u0131\u015f anla\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131n, bu bir milleti veya kabileyi temsil etmez. Bu insan\u0131n kemik yap\u0131s\u0131, kafatas\u0131 \u015fekli gibi temel unsurlar\u0131 s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rmak i\u00e7in konulmu\u015f bir terimdir.<\/p>\n<p>Bug\u00fcn ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lar kan\u0131tlad\u0131 ki, Polinezyal\u0131lar g\u00fcney Asya\u2019dan M\u00d6 1000 y\u0131llar\u0131nda Tona ve Samoa adalar\u0131na ula\u015ft\u0131lar. \u0130lerleyen zamanlarda da di\u011fer adalara. Adalarda ilk ya\u015fayan insanlar\u0131n dini t\u00f6renleri incelendi\u011finde, Atalar\u0131na tapt\u0131klar\u0131 ve dev heykeller yapt\u0131klar\u0131 ortaya \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131ld\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>Irk bak\u0131m\u0131ndan Causoid olabilirler, o konu hakk\u0131nda bir bilgim yok. Ancak \u2018\u2019Kafkas kabilesinden gelmedir\u2019\u2019 \u00e7ok iddial\u0131 bir \u015fey. Ciddi bir kan\u0131t ve kaynak varsa l\u00fctfen ortaya koyun bizde faydalanal\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p>Sayg\u0131lar<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>GHUNEKHO Savs&#305;r &Ouml;zbay 10 Eyl&uuml;l 2009 Tarihin olu&#351;umu i&ccedil;erisinde bir &ccedil;ok uluslar yok olurken, bir &ccedil;ok yeni uluslarda ortaya &ccedil;&#305;km&#305;&#351;t&#305;r. Yok olan uluslar&#305;n kal&#305;nt&#305;lar&#305; g&uuml;n&uuml;m&uuml;ze de&#287;in ula&#351;m&#305;&#351;t&#305;r da. D&uuml;nyan&#305;n de&#287;i&#351;en yap&#305;s&#305;na uygun olarak toplumlarda b&ouml;l&uuml;nmelerde meydana gelir. 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