{"id":14700,"date":"2019-08-19T18:15:33","date_gmt":"2019-08-19T23:15:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/?p=14700"},"modified":"2019-08-19T18:15:33","modified_gmt":"2019-08-19T23:15:33","slug":"yahya-nepsev-ile-eski-bir-gorusme","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/yahya-nepsev-ile-eski-bir-gorusme\/","title":{"rendered":"YAHYA NEPSEV \u0130LE ESK\u0130 B\u0130R G\u00d6R\u00dc\u015eME"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-14701\" src=\"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Yahya-Nepsev-b.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"541\" height=\"304\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Yahya-Nepsev-b.jpg 541w, https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Yahya-Nepsev-b-300x169.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 541px) 100vw, 541px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Ekim 1988&#8217;de \u0130srail&#8217;in Kfar-Kama beldesi Belediye Ba\u015fkan\u0131 <strong>Yahya Nepsev<\/strong>, akrabas\u0131 ve dan\u0131\u015fman\u0131 <strong>Ahmed Nepsev <\/strong>ile birlikte T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;yi ziyaret etmi\u015fti. Ben de onlar\u0131n gezi izlenimlerini yaz\u0131p, o zamanlar yay\u0131nlanmakta olan <strong> &#8220;Kafda\u011f\u0131&#8221;<\/strong> dergisine g\u00f6ndermi\u015ftim ama yay\u0131nlanmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u015eimdi, \u00a0\u00f6zetle o d\u00f6nemde tamam\u0131n\u0131 yay\u0131nlamay\u0131 da uygun bulmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z <strong>Adigey<\/strong>&#8216;e ili\u015fkin bir haberi, yani d\u00f6nemin \u0130srail Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 <strong>Yitzak \u015eamir<\/strong>&#8216;e atfen verilen bir bilgiyi, gecikmi\u015f de olsa, aktarmak istiyorum. <strong><\/p>\n<p>HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z: Sizi tan\u0131yabilir miyiz?<\/strong><strong><\/p>\n<p>Yahya Nepsev: <\/strong> 11 y\u0131ldan beri \u0130srail&#8217;in <strong>Kfar-Kama<\/strong> beldesi belediye ba\u015fkan\u0131y\u0131m. Daha \u00f6nce b\u00f6lge ve kent planlanas\u0131 \u00fczerine \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yordum. Gezi amac\u0131m tan\u0131\u015fmak, Kfar-Kama&#8217;da kuraca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z <strong>Adige M\u00fczesi <\/strong>i\u00e7in malzeme toplamak, bu arada \u00f6nemli ve sevindirici bir bilgiyi de sizlere aktarmakt\u0131r. M\u00fcze i\u00e7in arad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z her t\u00fcrl\u00fc malzeme ve antikay\u0131, \u00f6zellikle \u0130stanbul Kapal\u0131\u00e7ar\u015f\u0131&#8217;da bulduk. Bu i\u015f i\u00e7in h\u00fck\u00fcmetimiz de bir \u00f6denek ay\u0131rd\u0131. <strong><\/p>\n<p>\u0130SRA\u0130L<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z: <\/strong><strong> \u0130srail\u2019deki ya\u015fam\u0131n\u0131za ili\u015fkin neler s\u00f6ylemek istersiniz?<\/p>\n<p>Yahya Nepsev: <\/strong> K\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fcz \u0130srail&#8217;in en g\u00fczel ve g\u00f6zde turistik yerlerinden. Onar\u0131m gerektiren eski bir kalemiz bile var. K\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fcn ve ikinci k\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fcz Reyhaniye&#8217;nin etnik ve do\u011fal yap\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 korumaya \u00f6zen g\u00f6steriyoruz. M\u00fcsl\u00fcman&#8217;\u0131z, hacca gittim ama biz dini politikaya ve devlet i\u015flerine kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131rm\u0131yor, bireysel inan\u00e7 konusu olarak alg\u0131l\u0131yoruz.<\/p>\n<p>Kfar-Kama okullar\u0131nda temel e\u011fitim dili Yahudice. Reyhaniye&#8217;de ise Arap\u00e7a. Her iki dil de resmi dil, okullar\u0131m\u0131zda okutuluyor. Adigelerin devam etti\u011fi okullar\u0131n 4&#8217;nc\u00fc ve 5&#8217;nci s\u0131n\u0131flar\u0131nda, s\u0131n\u0131f ba\u015f\u0131na haftada 2 ders saati olmak \u00fczere Adigece de okutuluyor.<\/p>\n<p>K\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fczde i\u00e7ki i\u00e7ilmez, k\u00f6y d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda i\u00e7enlerimiz de \u00e7ok azd\u0131r. Kendimizi Yahudi ve Araplarla e\u015fit hakl\u0131 ama onlardan ayr\u0131 bir toplum olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Herkesin etnik ve dini kimli\u011fine sayg\u0131l\u0131 ve bar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131 bir toplumuz.<\/p>\n<p><strong> HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z: K\u00fclt\u00fcrel nitelikli \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n neler oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yler misiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Yahya Nepsev: <\/strong> H\u00fck\u00fcmet kimli\u011fimizi ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc korumam\u0131z do\u011frultusunda\u00a0 bizi destekliyor. Bize haftada 15 dakika Adigece radyo yay\u0131n\u0131 olana\u011f\u0131 da sa\u011flad\u0131 ama bu i\u015f i\u00e7in gerekli elemanlardan yoksun oldu\u011fumuzdan, bu i\u015fi bir t\u00fcrl\u00fc ray\u0131na oturtamad\u0131k. Biz \u0130srail Adigeleri aras\u0131nda sizdeki gibi, geli\u015fmi\u015f bir dayan\u0131\u015fma anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 da yok. Herkes kendi i\u015fi, kendi derdi pe\u015finde.<\/p>\n<p><strong> T\u00dcRK\u0130YE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z: <\/strong><strong> T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;ye ili\u015fkin gezi izlenimlerinizi anlat\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Yahya Nepsev: <\/strong> T\u00fcrkiye g\u00fczel bir \u00fclke. T\u00fcrk ya da de\u011fil, g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm insanlar, genellikle sakin ve terbiyeli kimseler. 21 g\u00fcn boyunca baz\u0131 Adige k\u00f6ylerini, \u0130stanbul, Ankara ve D\u00fczce gibi kentleri gezdik.<\/p>\n<p><strong> HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z: <\/strong><strong> T\u00fcrkiyeli Adigeleri nas\u0131l buldunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Yahya Nepsev: <\/strong> Adigelerden hayli yak\u0131nl\u0131k ve ilgi g\u00f6rd\u00fck. Bu denli \u00e7ok say\u0131da Adige ile kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fm\u0131\u015f olmak, k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcc\u00fck bir toplum olan biz <strong> \u0130srailli Adigeler <\/strong>i\u00e7in hem \u015fa\u015f\u0131rt\u0131c\u0131 ve hem de sevindirici oldu.<\/p>\n<p>Baz\u0131 Adige k\u00f6ylerinin durumunu ise be\u011fenmedim. Baz\u0131 semt kahvehanelerinde eski Adige inceli\u011fini ve konukseverli\u011fini g\u00f6remedik, aya\u011fa kalkma ve ho\u015fgeldin (\u043a\u044a\u0435\u0431\u043b\u0430\u0433\u044a) deme nezaketi bile kalmam\u0131\u015f; selam verdi\u011fimiz halde ka\u011f\u0131t oyunlar\u0131 oynamaya devam ettiler. Yad\u0131rgad\u0131m, \u00fcz\u00fcld\u00fcm ve Adigelik ad\u0131na da utand\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p>Baz\u0131 kentlerdeki durumu ise iyi buldum, \u00f6zellikle \u0130stanbul&#8217;daki bilin\u00e7lili\u011fe hayran kald\u0131m, hi\u00e7bir yerde bu \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde bir k\u00fclt\u00fcrel bilin\u00e7lenme bulundu\u011funu sanm\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n<p><strong> HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z: <\/strong><strong> Daha ba\u015fka neleri ele\u015ftirebilirsiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Yahya Nepsev: <\/strong> Adigece ihmal ediliyor, buna \u00e7ok \u00fcz\u00fcld\u00fcm. \u0130\u015fin as\u0131l \u00fcz\u00fcc\u00fc olan yan\u0131 Adigece bilenlerin bile Adigece konu\u015fmamakta olmalar\u0131, bunu anlamak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil. <strong><\/p>\n<p>ASIL HABER<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z: <\/strong><strong> Bize \u00f6nemli bir bilgi getirece\u011finizi \u0130srail&#8217;den telefonla bana bildirmi\u015ftiniz? Nedir?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Yahya Nepsev: <\/strong> \u0130srail&#8217;in Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 <strong>Yitzak \u015eamir<\/strong>&#8216;in <strong>Likud Partisi<\/strong>&#8216;nden se\u00e7ilmi\u015f bir belediye ba\u015fkan\u0131y\u0131m. Likud partili belediye ba\u015fkanlar\u0131n\u0131n bir toplant\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n bitiminde, \u015eamir benden kalmam\u0131 istedi: &#8220;Sana \u00f6nemli bir haberim var&#8221; dedi. \u201dMoskova&#8217;dan gelen bir Rus gazeteci ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcm. Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f sorunu i\u00e7in ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc sordum. Bana &#8216;B\u00fct\u00fcn sorunlar \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclecek. Bunun i\u00e7in, \u00f6nce Ruslarla bir sorunu bulunmayan Adigelere, Adigey&#8217;e deneme niteli\u011finde bir cumhuriyet kurdurulacak. Ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 bir sonu\u00e7 al\u0131rsak, Karaba\u011f da dahil, b\u00fct\u00fcn etnik sorunlar \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclecek&#8217; dedi. Ayr\u0131ca &#8216;Sizde de Adige var m\u0131?&#8217; diye de sordu, ben de &#8216;var&#8217; dedim.<\/p>\n<p><strong> HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z: <\/strong><strong> Ankara&#8217;dan gelen birileri, herhalde bu sizin verdi\u011finiz bilgileri kendi alg\u0131lamalar\u0131na g\u00f6re yorumluyor olmal\u0131lar. Kafkasya&#8217;daki Adigey, Kara\u00e7ay-\u00c7erkesya ve Kabardey-Balkarya b\u00f6lgelerinin birle\u015ftirilmeleri yoluyla yeni ve b\u00fcy\u00fck bir &#8220;Adige Cumhuriyeti&#8221; kurulaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar. Bu s\u00f6ylenenlere ili\u015fkin olarak ne dersiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Yahya Nepsev: <\/strong> Cumhuriyet olacak olan yer Adigey&#8217;dir, ba\u015fka t\u00fcrl\u00fc bir bilgiden haberdar de\u011filim.<\/p>\n<p><strong> HAP\u0130 Cevdet Y\u0131ld\u0131z: <\/strong><strong> Te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim.<\/p>\n<p><\/strong> <strong>Not: <\/strong>Bu r\u00f6portaj, ilkin Jineps gazetesinde (say\u0131 19, s. 5) yay\u0131nland\u0131. \u015eimdi yeniden g\u00f6zden ge\u00e7irilmi\u015ftir. -HCY<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>HAP&#304; Cevdet Y&#305;ld&#305;z Ekim 1988&rsquo;de &#304;srail&rsquo;in Kfar-Kama beldesi Belediye Ba&#351;kan&#305; Yahya Nepsev, akrabas&#305; ve dan&#305;&#351;man&#305; Ahmed Nepsev ile birlikte T&uuml;rkiye&rsquo;yi ziyaret etmi&#351;ti. Ben de onlar&#305;n gezi izlenimlerini yaz&#305;p, o zamanlar yay&#305;nlanmakta olan &ldquo;Kafda&#287;&#305;&rdquo; dergisine g&ouml;ndermi&#351;tim ama yay&#305;nlanmam&#305;&#351;t&#305;. &#350;imdi, &nbsp;&ouml;zetle o d&ouml;nemde tamam&#305;n&#305; yay&#305;nlamay&#305; da uygun bulmad&#305;&#287;&#305;m&#305;z Adigey&lsquo;e ili&#351;kin bir haberi, yani d&ouml;nemin &#304;srail Ba&#351;bakan&#305; Yitzak 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