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Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u201cA\u011flamayana s\u00fct vermezler!\u201d<\/p>\n (\u00d6n a\u00e7\u0131klama: Bug\u00fcnk\u00fc misafirim Musa Karaalio\u011flu. Musa Karaalio\u011flu, bizim\u00a0\u00a0sanat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131zdan, k\u00fclt\u00fcr insanlar\u0131m\u0131zdan bir tanesi. Ad\u0131n\u0131 2003\u2018ten beri bir\u00e7ok kez duymu\u015flu\u011fum var. 2003\u2018te \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f bir alb\u00fcm\u00fc var: \u201cKhinci\/ K\u00f6pr\u00fc\u201d; \u015fimdi \u00f6yle hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum.\u00a0\u00a0Bir ba\u015fka alb\u00fcm\u00fc daha var. \u0130kinci alb\u00fcm\u00fc \u201eOropa\/ A\u015fk\u201c ad\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yor.\u00a0\u00a0Musa Karaalio\u011flu, hem \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 okuyor hem de \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc yaz\u0131yor. Karaalio\u011flu\u2018nun birbirinden g\u00fczel ve anlaml\u0131 \u015fark\u0131 s\u00f6zleri var.\u00a0\u00a0Lazca \u015fark\u0131 s\u00f6zlerinden birinde bize \u015f\u00f6yle diyor:<\/p>\n \u00a0\u201cAdam gibi olacaks\u0131n\/ Ka\u00e7 lisan biliyorsan, o kadar adams\u0131n\/ Ancak anadilini bilmiyorsan hi\u00e7 de adam de\u011filsin\/ ( \u2026) Lazcay\u0131 biz, kendi ellerimizle g\u00f6m\u00fcyoruz\/ Korkuyorsun bir \u015feylerden, kim oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyemiyorsun\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n B\u00f6ylesi sa\u011flam ve anlaml\u0131 duygu ve anlay\u0131\u015fa sahip Musa Karaalio\u011flu. Kalemi de \u00e7ok g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc. Sesi erkek\u00e7e ve davud\u00ee. Ben onun \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131z dinleyince, sanki bug\u00fcnk\u00fc g\u00fcnde de\u011fil de, \u00e7ok eski zamanlarda ya\u015f\u0131yorum, Kral\u00a0\u00a0Gubaz\u2018\u0131n zaman\u0131nday\u0131m sanki; y\u00fcre\u011fime sa\u011flaml\u0131k geliyor. B\u00f6ylesi mistik bir g\u00fcc\u00fc var Onun.\u00a0\u00a0Musa Karaalio\u011flu konu\u015ftum.\u00a0\u00a0Bu, sohbetimizin metni. Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz. 22 XII 2018)<\/p>\n +<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: Musa Bey, biliyorum, siz F\u0131nd\u0131kl\u0131l\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z, Vi\u0292\u0306uri. L\u00fctfen, \u00f6nce biyografinizden konu\u015fal\u0131m. Nerede ve ne zaman do\u011fdunuz? Hangi okullarda okudunuz? Ne i\u015f yap\u0131yorsunuz? \u015eimdi nerede ya\u015f\u0131yorsunuz? Evli misiniz? \u00c7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131z var m\u0131?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011flu: Neredenin cevab\u0131 kolay; Vi\u0292\u0306e\u2018nin \u00c7\u0306anap\u0306eti\/ Meyval\u0131 K\u00f6y\u00fc\u2018nde d\u00fcnyaya gelmi\u015fim. Ne zaman sorusuna gelince, o biraz zor. Do\u011fum g\u00fcn\u00fcm, okula ba\u015flarken kay\u0131da ge\u00e7ilmi\u015f. Kay\u0131t an\u0131nda, tahmini bir tarih konmu\u015f ve b\u00f6ylece de benim do\u011fum g\u00fcn\u00fcm 01 \u015eubat 1956 olmu\u015f. Ger\u00e7ek do\u011fum g\u00fcn\u00fcm, Annemin ve Ninemin s\u00f6ylediklerine g\u00f6re, b\u00fcy\u00fck ihtimalle 24 Aralik 1957 olmal\u0131.\u00a0\u0130lkokulu siyah \u00f6nl\u00fck ve beyaz yaka k\u0131yafetiyle k\u00f6y\u00fcm \u00c7\u0306anap\u0306eti\u2018de\/ Meyval\u0131\u2018da, Ortaokulu tak\u0131m elbise, kravat ve \u015fapka ekli uniformayle Vi\u0292\u0306e`de ve Liseyi Arkabi`de bitirdim. Sonra S\u0131n\u0131f \u00d6\u011fretmenli\u011fi b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc bitirip, \u00fc\u00e7 seneye yak\u0131n \u00f6\u011fretmenlik ve y\u00f6neticilik g\u00f6revlerinde bulundum.<\/p>\n 1980 y\u0131l\u0131 ba\u015f\u0131nda Almanya`ya gittim. Dil e\u011fitiminden sonra, M\u00fcnih`de pedagoji e\u011fitimine ba\u015flad\u0131m. Okul sonras\u0131, 1986`da, zor ko\u015fullara ra\u011fmen, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma m\u00fcsadesini al\u0131p, M\u00fcnih`te gen\u00e7lik \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 yapan bir kurumda i\u015fe\u00a0ba\u015flad\u0131m. K\u0131sa d\u00f6nem sonra, yeni bir i\u015f olana\u011f\u0131 nedeniyle N\u00fcrnberg\u2018e ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131m; Gen\u00e7lik Dairesinde T\u00fcrkiyeli \u00e7ocuklara y\u00f6nelik okul ve aileler aras\u0131nda birlikte \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmay\u0131 \u00f6ng\u00f6ren projede iki y\u0131l boyunca katk\u0131 sundum. \u0130ki y\u0131ldan sonra, K\u00fclt\u00fcr Dairesine ge\u00e7tim ve bir \u015fehir semt K\u00fclt\u00fcr merkezinde, \u00f6zelikle T\u00fcrkiye k\u00f6kenli insanlara y\u00f6nelik, k\u00fclt\u00fcrel aktivite ve e\u011fitim \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 yapt\u0131m. Ekim 2004 y\u0131l\u0131ndan beri, toplumun geneline y\u00f6nelik k\u00fclt\u00fcrel ve e\u011fitsel aktiviteleri i\u00e7eren bir k\u00fclt\u00fcr merkezinin y\u00f6neticili\u011fini yap\u0131yorum. Ayr\u0131ca, zaman bulduk\u00e7a m\u00fczik \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131m ve olanaklar dahilinde oyuncu olarak sinema ve dizi filmlerinde yer al\u0131yorum. Evliyim, bir k\u0131z ve bir erkek \u00e7ocu\u011fum var. K\u0131z\u0131m bas\u0131n -yay\u0131n b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnde e\u011fitim g\u00f6r\u00fcyor, o\u011flum Makine M\u00fchendisi.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: Musa Bey, siz bir k\u00fclt\u00fcr insan\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z. Yay\u0131mlanm\u0131\u015f iki m\u00fczik alb\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fcz var. Birinin ad\u0131 \u201eKhinci\/ K\u00f6pr\u00fc.\u201c Di\u011ferinin ad\u0131 \u201eOropa\/ A\u015fk.\u201c Yeni alb\u00fcm projeniz var m\u0131? Biliyorum, \u015eark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc de siz yaz\u0131yorsunuz. Ka\u00e7 adet Lazca ve T\u00fcrk\u00e7e \u015fark\u0131 s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fcz var?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011flu: Evet, iki alb\u00fcm \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmam oldu. Birincisi;\u00a0\u00a0\u201eKhinci\u201c, T\u00fcrk\u00e7e kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201eK\u00f6pr\u00fc\u201c yani k\u00fclt\u00fcrleraras\u0131 diyalog. \u0130kincisi;\u00a0\u00a0\u201eOropa\u201c; buradaki anlam\u0131, a\u015fktan ziyade sevgi, yani sevginin her t\u00fcrl\u00fcs\u00fc, sadece insanin kendi tekelinde sandi\u011fi sevgi de\u011fil. Alb\u00fcmlerde yeralan par\u00e7alar\u0131n on sekizi, s\u00f6z\u00fc ve m\u00fczi\u011fiyle kendi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmamd\u0131r. Bunlardan onu Lazca ve sekizi T\u00fcrk\u00e7e olarak icra edilmi\u015ftir. Ayr\u0131ca yay\u0131mlanmam\u0131\u015f, yeterli say\u0131da yeni \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmam mevcut. Ekonomik boyutu y\u00fcksek oldu\u011fundan yeniden bir alb\u00fcm \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131 \u015fu an d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: Musa Bey, siz k\u00fclt\u00fcr, m\u00fczik insan\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z. Konserler veriyor musunuz?\u00a0\u00a0L\u00fctfen, bize eski ve yeni konserlerinizden\u00a0\u00a0bahsedin! Yeni konser projeleriniz var m\u0131?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011flu \u00d6nceki y\u0131llarda konser \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131m oldu. \u00d6zelikle festival, dayan\u0131\u015fma ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrel etkinliklerde. Bunlar\u0131n aras\u0131nda G\u00fcrc\u00fc \u201eShin\u201c grubu ile birlikte de bir konserimiz oldu. Yeni proje anlam\u0131nda, halen ufukta g\u00f6r\u00fcnen kesin bir\u015fey yok.<\/p>\n \u00a0Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: Musa Bey, Sizin \u00e7ok anlaml\u0131 \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131z var. Lazcay\u0131 seviyorsunuz. \u015eark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131zla, hem Lazcan\u0131n \u00f6l\u00fcm s\u00fcrecinden, hem de Laz Halk\u0131n\u0131n zor ya\u015fam\u0131ndan bahsediyorsunuz. Lazlar, \u00e7ok eski ve k\u00f6kl\u00fc bir k\u00fclt\u00fcre sahip. 25- 30 y\u0131 \u00f6nce, Ne Lazlar ne de Lazlar\u0131n i\u00e7inden \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f Ayd\u0131nlar, Lazlar\u0131n Tarihinden ve Y\u00fcksek K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcnden haberdar idiler. Bu konuya ili\u015fkin neler s\u00f6yleyebilirsiniz?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011flu: Lazca benim anadilim, sevmenin \u00f6tesinde\u00a0kimli\u011fimin ve ki\u015fili\u011fimin omurgas\u0131. Sosyaliyasyonuma y\u00f6n veren temel yap\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131md\u0131r. \u00d6zet olarak; Anadil, f\u0131rsat e\u015fitli\u011fi kapsam\u0131nda bir halk\u0131n b\u00fct\u00fcn tarihi ge\u00e7mi\u015finin aktar\u0131m\u0131 ve ona ba\u011fl\u0131 olarak k\u00fclt\u00fcrel \u00f6\u011felerin geli\u015fimini sa\u011flayan temel unsurdur. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla asimilasyon uygulamalar\u0131yla bir dilin yok olmas\u0131, bir halk\u0131n gelece\u011finin yok olmas\u0131yla e\u015f de\u011ferdir. Ayn\u0131 zamanda \u0130nsanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n de\u011fer kay\u0131b\u0131 ve ay\u0131b\u0131d\u0131r.\u00a0Bu ba\u011flamda,\u00a0\u201cAyd\u0131n\u201c ya da \u201eY\u00fcksek K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u201c deyimleri bana ger\u00e7ekten abs\u00fcrt geliyor. Burada kavramlar\u0131 neye ve kime\u00a0 g\u00f6re alg\u0131layaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u00f6nem kazan\u0131yor. S\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc etti\u011fimiz deyimleri ilk duydu\u011fumuzda, insan refleksif olarak ki\u015fi e\u011fitimiyle ba\u011flant\u0131 kurar. Ki hakl\u0131l\u0131k pay\u0131 var. Ama bu ba\u011flamda belirleyici olan; nas\u0131l ve ne i\u00e7in bir e\u011fitim uygulamas\u0131? Sorusu \u00e7ok \u00f6nem kazan\u0131r. Bunu da e\u011fitimdeki iki farkl\u0131 anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 tan\u0131mlay\u0131p k\u0131yaslayarak cevaplamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fal\u0131m:<\/p>\n Birincisi; belli bir \u0130deolojiye ve inanca hizmet eden, de\u011fi\u015fmez kurallar\u0131 olan ezbere dayal\u0131, itaat\u00e7\u0131 kul yeti\u015ftiren e\u011fitim sistemi.\u00a0\u00a0\u0130kincisi; d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeyi \u00f6\u011freten e\u011fitim sistemi. Yani; k\u0131yaslama olana\u011f\u0131n\u0131 sunup, bireyin d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnme yetene\u011fini geli\u015ftirip, ki\u015finin kendi iradesiyle sonu\u00e7lara gitmesini sa\u011flar. Sonu\u00e7 itibar\u0131yla, \u00f6z g\u00fcvenli, sorgulayan yeni bulu\u015flar\u0131 ve \u00fcretimi \u00f6ng\u00f6ren bireyleri yeti\u015ftiren e\u011fitim sistemi.<\/p>\n Bu tan\u0131mlamadan sonra, ancak d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcp sorgulayan ve s\u00fcrekli ara\u015ft\u0131ran birey olmu\u015f ki\u015finin, ayd\u0131n de\u011fil ama ayd\u0131nlanma s\u00fcrecinin kap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 aralam\u0131\u015f olabilece\u011fini kan\u0131s\u0131nday\u0131m.<\/p>\n Ayd\u0131n olarak nitelendirilen ki\u015filerin D\u00fcnyadan bihaber olmalar\u0131n\u0131 da; b\u00fcy\u00fck oranda, uygulanan asimilasyon e\u011fitim politikalar\u0131n\u0131n sonu\u00e7lar\u0131 olarak d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: Musa Bey, Osmanl\u0131 d\u00f6neminde olsun, \u0130stikl\u00e2l Harbinde olsun, Cumhuriyet d\u00f6neminde olsun, Lazlar hep \u00e7al\u0131\u015fkan ve hep yurtsever. Hele de\u00a0\u00a0\u0130stikl\u00e2l\u00a0\u00a0Harbine canla-ba\u015fla destek oldular, \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131lar. Tarih\u00ee belgeler bize b\u00f6yle s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Ancak \u00d6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckten sonra; \u0130ngilizce, Almanca, Frans\u0131zca, Bulgarca, \u0130talyanca Rumca, Ermenice okullar a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131; bu gayet normal idi. Lazca i\u00e7in okullar a\u00e7\u0131lmad\u0131. \u00d6yle de kalmad\u0131. Lazcay\u0131 konu\u015fmak bile yasakland\u0131 bir zamanlar, \u00e7ocuklar Lazca konu\u015funca, d\u00f6v\u00fcyorlard\u0131. \u0130nsanlar, Lazca konu\u015funca para cezas\u0131 veriyorlard\u0131. Bu t\u00fcr olaylar i\u00e7in neler s\u00f6yleyebilirsiniz?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011flu: Lazlarla ilgili yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z, tan\u0131mlamalardan ve anlatt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z uygulamalardan sonra ne diyebilirim ki; ay\u0131p edilmi\u015f, yaz\u0131k edilmi\u015f derim. Di\u011fer taraftan da Lazlar\u0131n bu ba\u011flamda kendilerini sorgulamalar\u0131 gerekli oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum, topu taca atmakla sonuca gidilemeyece\u011fi bilincine var\u0131lmal\u0131. Hani halk dilinde bir deyim var ya; \u201cA\u011flamayana s\u00fct vermezler\u201d misali.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: O zamanki devlet adamlar\u0131, yaln\u0131zca dil asimilasyonu uygulamad\u0131lar. Tar\u0131m\u0131n geli\u015fmesine de izin verilmedi; m\u0131s\u0131r ve karal\u00e2hana ve birka\u00e7 tar\u0131m \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcnden ba\u015fka bir \u015fey yoktu. \u0130nsanlar\u0131m\u0131z gurbete gidiyordu. B\u00f6ylece de memlekette n\u00fcfus azald\u0131. G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde bizimkiler b\u00fcy\u00fck \u015fehirlerde da\u011f\u0131n\u0131k halde ya\u015f\u0131yorlar. Bu da Lazcan\u0131n \u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcne bir ba\u015fka sebep. Bu eski k\u00fclt\u00fcrel ve ekonomik asimilasyon konusunda da neler s\u00f6yleyebilirsiniz?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011flu: Yukarda ifade etti\u011fim gibi, haks\u0131z ve ac\u0131mas\u0131z uygulamalar. Yap\u0131lan yanl\u0131\u015f uygulamalar \u00fczerine yo\u011funla\u015fmak yerine, yanl\u0131\u015flardan nas\u0131l d\u00f6n\u00fcl\u00fcp, tel\u00e2fisi do\u011frultusunda birlikte \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm \u00fcretmekte fayda var.\u00a0\u00a0Bu da ancak \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 Beyannamesi\u2018nde yeralan y\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fcl\u00fckler do\u011frultusunda yasal d\u00fczenlemeleri yap\u0131p, dilin ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrel elementelerin geli\u015fimi i\u00e7in gerekli alt yap\u0131 ve ekonomik ko\u015fullar\u0131 sa\u011flamakla m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. Bunu yaparken de bir l\u00fctuf bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131yla de\u011fil, Devletin Vatanda\u015f\u0131na olan sorumlulu\u011fu ta\u015f\u0131yan bir bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131yla uygulamaya konulursa, ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olunabilir.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: Musa Bey, eski zamanlarda, herkes Lazca biliyordu. G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde herkes Lazcay\u0131 bilmiyor. Lazca, g\u00fcnden g\u00fcne \u00f6l\u00fcyor. Lazca \u015fimdi Devlet okullar\u0131nda se\u00e7meli ders. Ancak haftada bir-iki saat se\u00e7meli ders ile Lazca ya\u015fayamaz. \u00d6yle g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor ki, radyo-TV yay\u0131n\u0131 en hay\u0131rl\u0131 i\u015f. Ancak TRT, Lazca kanal a\u00e7mad\u0131. Ne yapal\u0131m da TRT Lazca TV a\u00e7s\u0131n?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011flu: Nas\u0131l ki, se\u00e7meli ders tek ba\u015f\u0131na bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm getirmediyse, Lazca TV yay\u0131n\u0131 olsa bile s\u00fcre\u00e7 i\u00e7inde genele y\u00f6nelik \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc getiremeyecektir. Beraberinde sadece y\u0131lg\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131 getirecektir. O nedenle, sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm isteniyorsa, Lazcay\u0131, ya\u015fam\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n b\u00fct\u00fcn alanlar\u0131nda ve toplumun yap\u0131sal kurumlar\u0131nda varalabilme ko\u015fullar\u0131n\u0131n sa\u011flanmas\u0131 gerekli. Tek ayakla bir At`\u0131n\u00a0ko\u015fmas\u0131 bir yana, y\u00fcr\u00fcmesi bile m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmayaca\u011f\u0131na g\u00f6re, tek ba\u015f\u0131na Lazca TV ya da tek ba\u015f\u0131na se\u00e7meli ders de\u00a0\u00a0At\u0131n ko\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131 m\u00fcmk\u00fcn k\u0131lmaz.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: Musa Bey, ben size \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. Ba\u015fka sorum yok, ancak sizin s\u00f6yleyecekleriniz varsa, l\u00fctfen, bahsedin. Te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. Yaradan sizin yard\u0131mc\u0131n\u0131z olsun.<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011flu: Rica ederim, Cuma, memnuniyetle.<\/p>\n Her\u015feyden \u00f6nce, Yaradan kimseyi yarad\u0131lana\u00a0muhta\u00e7 k\u0131lmas\u0131n! ve\u00a0\u201e\u0130nadina Umut\u201c\u00a0<\/u>derim<\/p>\n Nananena \u00e7kuni xepe k\u0306oreyi<\/p>\n Uk\u00f6yneli xvala, \u00e7kar u\u0292\u0306k\u0306areli<\/p>\n \u015eurim\u015fine \u00e7kimi kogon\u0292\u0306k\u0306i toli<\/p>\n Muun\u00e7\u0306xepe\u015fa mendemiyoni<\/p>\n Lazuri, na\u00e7xiyalamz po\u011faris \u0292\u0306kari<\/p>\n Skidala, dodgina ar mcve\u015fi nca steri<\/p>\n Mjora extasen, \u00e7kar var gextasen<\/p>\n Oropa \u00e7kunik purki gontxasen<\/p>\n \n +<\/p>\n S\u00f6yle\u015finin Lazcas\u0131:<\/p>\n Musa K\u0306araalio\u011flik \u011ear\u011falaps:<\/p>\n \u201cBerek va imgara\u015fa, mitik bu\u017ei va me\u00e7aps!\u201d<\/p>\n (Go\u0292\u0306otkvala: And\u011faneri musafiri \u00e7kimi ren Musa K\u0306araalio\u011fli. Musa K\u0306araalio\u011fli ren \u00e7kineburi gemabirepe\u015fen, k\u0306ult\u0306uri\u015fi k\u0306o\u00e7epe\u015fen arteri. Mu\u015fi coxo 2003 \u0292\u0306ana\u015fendoni dido fara mignapun ma. 2003 \u0292\u0306anas gami\u00e7kvineri ar albumi ku\u011fun. Albumi mu\u015fis coxons \u201eXinci\u201c. Aya rt\u0306u iptineri albumi mu\u015fi; e\u015fo kom\u015funs a\u0292\u0306i.\u00a0 Gami\u00e7kvineri majura albumiti ku\u011fun. Majurani albumi mu\u015fis coxons \u201eOropa\u201c. Musa K\u0306araalio\u011flik hemi ibirs hemiti birapape mu\u015fi\u015fi t\u0306ekst\u0306epe \u00e7\u0306arups. Artikarti\u015fen mskva do gagnaponi Lazuri t\u0306ekst\u0306epe ku\u011fun Musa K\u0306araalio\u011flis. Lazuri t\u0306ekst\u0306epe mu\u015fi\u015fen arterik e\u015fo mi\u0292\u0306umernan:<\/p>\n \u201cK\u0306o\u00e7i steri kort\u0306are\/ Nak\u0306o nena gi\u00e7kin, hek\u0306o k\u0306o\u00e7i re si\/ Nana nena va gi\u00e7kin na, \u00e7kar k\u0306o\u00e7i va re si\/ ( \u2026) Lazuri Nena doboxvamt, \u00e7kun \u00e7kuni xepete\/ Ga\u015fkurinen mutxa\u015fen, mi noreti gatkfen\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n Amk\u0306ata k\u0306apet\u0306i minoba\u015fi zmona do gagnapa ku\u011fun Musa K\u0306araalio\u011flis. K\u0306alemi mu\u015fiti dido k\u0306ap\u0306et\u0306i ren. Sersi mu\u015fiti ren kimoluri do davuduri. Ma, mu\u015fi Lazuri do Turkuli birapapes vusimina\u015fi, lai and\u011faneri d\u011fas va vore, dido mcve\u015fi oras doviqver; Mapa Gubazi\u015fi oras doviqver; guri\u015fa k\u0306ap\u0306et\u0306oba momixteps. Amk\u0306ata k\u0306ap\u0306et\u0306i mistik\u0306uri menceli ku\u011fun emus. Musa K\u0306araalio\u011fli k\u0306ala b\u011far\u011fali ma. Aya ren \u00e7kini no\u011far\u011fale \u00e7kini\u015fi t\u0306ekst\u0306i. Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi. 22 XII 2018)<\/p>\n +<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: Musa Begi, ma mi\u00e7kin, tkvan Vi\u0292\u0306uri ret. \u0130pti biyografi tkvani\u015fen b\u011far\u011falat, molami\u015finit, mu iqven! So do mundes ye\u00e7kindit? Namu n\u0292\u0306opulapes igurit? Mu dulya ikipt? A\u0292\u0306i so skidut? \u00c7ileri reti? Berepe giqonunani?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011fli: So dovibadi, so yep\u00e7kindi; aya k\u0306itxalas nena\u015fgektiru ren perpu; no\u011fa Vi\u0292\u0306e\u015fi oput\u0306e \u00c7\u0306anap\u0306etis dovibadere, yep\u00e7kindere. Mundes dovibadi, mundes yep\u00e7kindi; aya k\u0306itxalas nena\u015fgektiru ren arm\u0292ika me\u00e7\u0306ireli. Ma ge\u00e7\u0306k\u0306apuroni n\u0292\u0306opulas gevo\u00e7\u0306k\u0306i\u015fi,\u00a0i\u00e7\u0306arineren\u00a0dobada\u015ftari\u011fi \u00e7kimi,\u00a0emindros ik\u0306aidineren\u00a0dobada\u015ftari\u011fi \u00e7kimi. A\u015fo iqu\u015fiti, mexole\u00a0i\u00e7\u0306arineren\u00a0dobada\u015ftari\u011fi \u00e7kimi.\u00a0Emutenti 01 K\u0306undura1956 iqveren \u00a0\u00e7kimi dobada\u015ftari\u011fi.\u00a0Nana do nandidi \u00e7kimi\u015fi nenaten, mtini\u00a0dobada\u015ftari\u011fi \u00e7kimi ren\u00a024 Xrist\u0306ana 1957; didi ixtimaliten, aya ren \u00a0mtini\u00a0dobada\u015ftari\u011fi \u00e7kimi.\u00a0X\u00e7e yak\u0306a do u\u00e7a go\u0292\u0306ak\u0306iraleten oput\u0306e \u00e7kimi \u00c7\u0306anap\u0306eti\u015fi ge\u00e7\u0306k\u0306apuroni n\u0292\u0306opulas; k\u0306ost\u0306iumi, k\u0306ravati do kuditen o\u015fkenoni n\u0292\u0306opula no\u011fa Vi\u0292\u0306es; Liseti no\u011fa Arkabis doviguri. Uk\u0306uleti sinifi\u015f mamgurapaloba\u015fi\u00a0\u00a0burme\u015fen dovimezuni ma. Uk\u0306ule mexole sum \u0292\u0306ana\u015f morgvalis mamgurapaloba do maktaloba dop\u0306i.<\/p>\n 1980 \u0292\u0306ana\u015fi ge\u00e7\u0306k\u0306ala rt\u0306u, Alamanya\u015fa mepti. Nena\u015f gamantana \u015fk\u0306ule, no\u011fa Munixi\u015fi Pedagoji\u015fi \u0130nst\u0306it\u0306ut\u0306is doviguri. Ekoni gamantana \u00e7kimi \u015fk\u0306ule; \u00a0dido me\u00e7\u0306ireli rt\u0306u, mara o\u00e7ali\u015fu\u015fi izni maqu 1986 \u0292\u0306anas. Uk\u0306uleti no\u011fa Munixi\u015fi ar a\u011fanmordaloba\u015fi \u00a0muesseses o\u00e7ali\u015fus kogevo\u00e7\u0306k\u0306i ma. Mk\u0306ule ora \u015fk\u0306ule, a\u011fani ar dulya ma\u017eiru no\u011fa Nurnbergis. Edo ma dovibargi eya no\u011fa\u015fa. Ekoni A\u011fanmordaloba\u015fi Dayras mxuci mep\u00e7i jur \u0292\u0306ana\u015f morgvalis. Turkiyeluri berepe \u015feni i\u00e7ali\u015fept\u0306u do n\u0292\u0306opula\u015fi maktaloba do berepe\u015fi oca\u011fape ok\u0306on\u00e7\u0306u no\u011firapt\u0306u eya dayrak; aya dulya ixvenet\u0306u me\u00e7kineri ar p\u0306rojeten. Jur \u0292\u0306ana \u015fk\u0306ule, K\u0306ult\u0306uri\u015f Dayra\u015fa mendapti do no\u011fa\u015fi ar rayoni\u015fi K\u0306ult\u0306uruli \u015ekaguris dovi\u00e7ali\u015fi. Didopeten Turkiye\u015fen moxtimeri k\u0306o\u00e7epe\u015fi k\u0306ult\u0306uruli faaliyetepe do gamantanapes omxvacu \u015feni dovi\u00e7ali\u015fi. Guma 2004 \u0292\u0306ana\u015fendoni, ar k\u0306ult\u0306uruli \u015fkaguri\u015fi maktaloba vikip ma. Aya \u015fkagurik k\u0306ult\u0306uruli faaliyetepe do gamantana me\u00e7aps mteli lamtinalas. Amu\u015f gale, fursat\u0306i do ora maqva\u015fi, muzik\u0306i\u015fi no\u00e7ali\u015fepe vikip do sinema do seriali filimepesti rolepe vosa\u011fup ma. \u00c7ileri vore; ar k\u0306ulani do ar skiri komiqonun. K\u0306ulanik iguraps medya- \u00e7\u0306andina\u015fi burmes. Skiri \u00e7kimi ren Makina\u015f injineri.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: Musa Begi, tkvan ret k\u0306ult\u0306uri\u015fi k\u0306o\u00e7i. Gami\u011fineri jur albumi kogi\u011funan. Aris coxons \u201eXinci\u201c. Majuras coxons \u201eOropa\u201c. A\u011fani albumi\u015f p\u0306roje gi\u011funani?! Ma mi\u00e7kin, tkvan birapape tkvani\u015fi t\u0306ekst\u0306epeti \u00e7\u0306arupt. Muk\u0306o \u00e7\u0306areli Lazuri do Turkuli birapa\u015fi t\u0306ekst\u0306i gi\u011funan?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011fli: Ho, jur \u00a0musik\u0306aluri albumi\u015f no\u00e7ali\u015fe maqu. Maartani musik\u0306aluri albumi \u00e7kimi coxo ren \u201eXinci\u201c. Turkuli nenaten ptkvat na, Kyopri; e\u015fo ptkvat na, a\u015fo ptkvat na, k\u0306ult\u0306urepe\u015fdoloxeni diyalogi. Majura musik\u0306aluri albumi \u00e7kimi\u015fi coxo ren \u201eOropa\u201c. Ar oxorcak ar k\u0306o\u00e7is qorops varna\u00a0 ar k\u0306o\u00e7ik ar oxorcas qorops; aya zmonaten va ren albumi \u00e7kimi\u015fi coxo.\u00a0\u00a0 K\u0306artaturli qoropa\u015fi maanaten ren albumi \u00e7kimi\u015fi coxo. K\u0306o\u00e7epes e\u015fo u\u00e7kinan, mara e\u015fo va ren. Albumepes ge\u017ein (18) vitoovro birapa. Aya birapape\u015fi t\u0306ekst\u0306iti, muzik\u0306iti ren \u00e7kimi noxvene. Aya birapape\u015fen viti ren Lazuri, ovroti ren Turkuli; e\u015fo ibirinu. Amu\u015f gale, \u00a0doba\u011fine majura no\u00e7ali\u015fepeti komi\u011fun ma, mara gami\u00e7kvineri va ren. A\u011fani albumi oxvenu guris va mek\u0306amilaps, maaliyeti mu\u015fi dido paxali ren do emu\u015feni.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: Musa Begi; tkvan k\u0306ult\u0306uri\u015fi k\u0306o\u00e7i ret, musik\u0306i\u015fi k\u0306o\u00e7i ret. K\u0306onserepe me\u00e7apti?\u00a0 Mcve\u015fi do a\u011fani k\u0306onserepe tkvani\u015fen molami\u015finit, mu iqven! A\u011fani k\u0306onseri\u015f p\u0306rojepe gi\u011funani?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011fli: \u0292\u0306oxleni \u0292\u0306anapes k\u0306onseri\u015f no\u00e7ali\u015fepe maqveret\u0306u. \u00a0Didopeten fest\u0306ivalepes, ok\u0306omxvacu\u015fi faaliyetepes do k\u0306ult\u0306uruli faaliyetepes xe mep\u00e7eret\u0306i ma. \u201eShin\u201c coxoni\u00a0 Gurculi ansambli k\u0306ala k\u0306onseri mep\u00e7eret\u0306i. K\u0306onserepe \u00e7kimi\u015fen arteri eya rt\u0306u. A\u011fani k\u0306onseri\u015f p\u0306roje va mi\u011fun amd\u011faneri nd\u011fas; aya otkvalu doma\u00e7\u0306irs a\u0292\u0306i.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: Musa Begi, tkvan op\u015fa gagnaponi Lazuri birapape kogi\u011funan. Edo Lazuri nenas qoropt. Birapape tkvaniten, hemi Lazuri Nena\u015fi \u011fura\u015fen, hemiti Lazi xalk\u0306i\u015fi me\u00e7\u0306ireli\u00a0 skidala\u015fen ambarepe mom\u00e7apt. Lazepes dido mcve\u015fi do cinconi k\u0306ult\u0306uri ku\u011funan. 25- 30 \u0292\u0306ana \u0292\u0306oxleni orapes, varti Lazepes varti Lazepe\u015fi doloxe\u015fen gamaxtimeri Gamantaneres Lazepe\u015fi Tarixi\u015fen do ma\u011fali K\u0306ult\u0306uri\u015fen ambari va u\u011fut\u0306es. Muepe izmont eya mcve\u015fi xali jin?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011fli: Lazuri nena ren \u00e7kimi nananena. Oqoropu\u015f met\u0306a, \u00a0minoba\u00a0do \u015faxsoba \u00e7kimi\u015fi gaga\u00e7i ren Lazuri nena. Lazuri nenak sosyalizasyonis memi\u015fvelu. Mk\u0306ule nenaten gi\u0292\u0306vat; \u00a0ar xalk\u0306i\u015fi mteli tarixuri skidala, and\u011faneri nd\u011falepe\u015fa nun\u00e7\u0306i\u015finu\u015fi menceli ku\u011fun nanenenas. Emu\u015feniti xalk\u0306i\u015fi k\u0306ult\u0306uruli unsurepe\u015fi omordinusti numxvacups nanenenak; amk\u0306ata menceloni \u00e7\u0306k\u0306oni ren nananena. Asimilasyonist\u0306uri p\u0306olit\u0306ik\u0306apeten ar nananena \u011fura\u015fi, eya xalk\u0306i\u015fi \u00e7\u0306umeneri renobati \u011furun. A\u015foten k\u0306o\u00e7inobas ar k\u0306imet\u0306i gundunun, aya ren k\u0306o\u00e7inoba\u015fi onc\u011fore; aya ren k\u0306o\u00e7inoba\u015fi dork\u0306inoba do onc\u011fore. Emu\u015feniti,\u00a0mtini gi\u0292\u0306vat; \u201cGamantaneri\u201c varna \u201ema\u011fali K\u0306ult\u0306uri\u201c steri zit\u0306ape absurduli ren \u00e7kimi \u015feni; e\u015fo momixteps. Namu gagnapaten do mi\u015fi gagnapaten oxovo\u0292\u0306onaminonan aya zit\u0306ape; a\u0292\u0306iti aya gagnapa\u015fa komoptat!\u00a0Aya zit\u0306ape ipti vognat\u015fi, refleksuro \u00e7kini gamanatana\u015fi seviyeten oxoma\u0292\u0306onenan aya zit\u0306ape\u015fi maana; ayati ren dido normali.\u00a0 Emu\u015feniti muperi do mu\u015feni\u00a0gamantana\u015fi p\u0306olit\u0306ika; aya k\u0306itxala ren dido beciti a\u0292\u0306i. Gamantana\u015fi\u00a0jur \u00e7kvaneri gagnapa o\u0292\u0306iruten do entepe ok\u0306iyasuten, nena\u015fgektiru\u015fi gzas gebdgitat a\u0292\u0306i:<\/p>\n Maartani gamantana\u015fi sistemik p\u0306anda ar ideoloji do ar ceras numxvacups do me\u00e7kineri k\u0306aidepe ku\u011fun; maezbere ren do itaatkyari k\u0306uli ordaps. \u00a0Majura gamantana\u015fi sist\u0306emik oguraps osimadu. Aya gamantana\u015fi sist\u0306emik k\u0306o\u00e7is ok\u0306iyasu\u015fi simada oguraps do emus gza me\u00e7aps irade mu\u015fiten gonk\u0306vatu\u015fa. Edo ti-mu\u015fi menceli\u015fen ambaroni, mak\u0306itxace, a\u011fani icadi do gamamala\u015fa xaveskyari timo\u015fletineri k\u0306o\u00e7epe ordaps aya gamantana\u015fi sist\u0306emik.<\/p>\n Ar k\u0306o\u00e7ik p\u0306anda k\u0306itxa\u015fi do udodginu go\u015fogora\u015fi iqven doxmelip\u0306ici, amk\u0306ata k\u0306o\u00e7i Gamantaneri va i\u015finen, mara Gamantanoba\u015fi gzas gedgineri ren xvala; e\u015fo i\u015finen, ma e\u015fo vizmon. Namtini k\u0306o\u00e7epe Gamantaneri i\u015finenan, mara entepes kiana\u015fen ambari va u\u011funan. Entepe\u015fi aya xali\u015fi mtini sebebiti ren didopeten\u00a0asimilasyonist\u0306uri p\u0306olit\u0306ikape.\u00a0Entepe\u015fi aya xali ye\u00e7kinderen\u00a0asimilasyonist\u0306uri gamanatana\u015fi p\u0306olit\u0306ikape\u015fen; ma aya dulya e\u015fo vizmon.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: Musa Begi, ginon Osmanli\u015fi oras, ginon Dudmo\u015fletinoba\u015fi Harbis, ginon Cumhuriyeti\u015fi oras, Lazepe p\u0306anda dulyamxvamu do p\u0306at\u0306riot\u0306i\/ vatanperveri k\u0306o\u00e7epe renan. Heleti Dudmo\u015fletinoba\u015fi Harbi\u015fi oras, \u015furdoguriten numxvaces do i\u00e7ali\u015fes. Tarixuri rabisk\u0306apek e\u015fo mi\u0292\u0306umernan. Mara Dudmo\u015fletinoba \u015fk\u0306uleni orapes; \u0130nglisuri, Alamanuri, Fransuri, Bulgaruli, \u0130t\u0306alianuri, Urumuri, Ermenuri nenapeten n\u0292\u0306opula guin\u0292\u0306k\u0306u; aya dido normali rt\u0306u. Murenki Lazuri nenaten n\u0292\u0306opulape va guin\u0292\u0306k\u0306u. A\u015foti va doskidu. Lazuri nena\u015fi o\u011far\u011faluti geink\u0306ilinu, berepek Lazuri \u011far\u011falan\u015fi, baxupt\u0306es. Xalk\u0306ik Lazuri \u011far\u011fala\u015fi, para\u015fi ceza me\u00e7apt\u0306es. Didilepek a\u015fo mi\u0292\u0306umernan. Amk\u0306ata ambarepe \u015feni muepe izmont?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011fli: Lazepe\u015fa medgineri asimilasyonist\u0306uri gamanatana\u015fi p\u0306olit\u0306ikape\u015fen ti\u015fen k\u0306udeli\u015fa molami\u015finit tkvan, ma \u00e7kva mu matkven! Aya ren didi onc\u011fore, aya ren didi yazu\u011fi; e\u015fo matkven ma! Xoloti otkvalu doma\u00e7\u0306irs;\u00a0 xvala asimilasyonist\u0306uri gamanatana\u015fi p\u0306olit\u0306ikape var, Lazepeti k\u0306abaetoni renan aya dulya\u015fi doloxe; ma e\u015fo vizmon. Nananena mutepe\u015fi oskedinu \u015feni entepekti \u00e7kar mutu va qves do emu\u015feni. Xvala asimilasyonist\u0306uri gamanatana\u015fi p\u0306olit\u0306ikapes k\u0306abaeti mok\u0306idutenti va iqven; aya o\u00e7kinu doma\u00e7\u0306irnan. Ar mskva notkvame komi\u011funan:\u00a0\u201cBerek va imgara\u015fa, mitik bu\u017ei va me\u00e7aps!\u201d Aya dulyati e\u015fo ren.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: Emindroneri devletadamapek xvala ligvist\u0306uri asimilasyoni va ikipt\u0306es. Ziraati\u015fi rdalasti gza va ni\u00e7inet\u0306u; lazut\u0306i do luqu do ar-jur ziraati\u015fi mono\u00e7ane\u015fen met\u0306a va mutu rt\u0306u. Edo \u00e7kineburepe k\u0306urbeti\u015fa ulurt\u0306es. A\u015fotenti \u00e7kineburepe\u015fi maxoroba im\u0292ikanu memleketis. And\u011faneri nd\u011fas, \u00e7kineburepe go\u015fob\u011feri skidunan didi no\u011fapes. Ayati majura beciti fakt\u0306ori ren Lazuri nena\u015fi \u011furas. Aya mcve\u015fi k\u0306ult\u0306uruli do ek\u0306onomiuri asimilasyonist\u0306uri p\u0306olit\u0306ikape \u015feni muepe izmont?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011fli: Jileni notkvamepe \u00e7kimitenti aya xali\u015fen molap\u015fini ma, a\u0292\u0306iti e\u015fo matkven; uhak\u0306k\u0306oba qverenan do p\u0306at\u0306i guroni asimilasyonist\u0306uri gamanatana\u015fi p\u0306olit\u0306ikape t\u0306erenan. Xvala mvce\u015fi xilafi asimilasyonist\u0306uri gamanatana\u015fi p\u0306olit\u0306ikape\u015fen mola\u015finu vardo, xilafi gza\u015fen goktimu do xilafi dulyape\u015f on\u0292\u0306uranu \u015feni, arto muepe maxvenenan; aya dulya \u015feni gzalepe o\u017eiramu doma\u00e7\u0306irnan. Aya ren ren pelaperi simada. K\u0306o\u00e7i\u015f hak\u0306epe\u015fi dek\u0306larasyonik amk\u0306ata dulyape\u015fen ti\u015fen k\u0306udeli\u015fa mola\u015finaps. Emu\u015feniti K\u0306o\u00e7i\u015f hak\u0306epe\u015fi dek\u0306larasyoni ren k\u0306ila \u00e7kini. Aya dek\u0306larasyonis ge\u017ein oxen\u0292alepe\u015fi vazifepe.\u00a0 K\u0306anonuro on\u0292\u0306uranupe, nena do k\u0306ult\u0306uri\u015fi omordinu \u015feni \u00a0tudenst\u0306rukt\u0306ura do finansuri omxvacuten iqven aya dulya. Mara aya va ren oxen\u0292ale\u015fi ar lutufi, aya ren oxen\u0292ale\u015fi nena-gemktiroba dobadonari mu\u015fi\u015fa. Aya dulya, oxen\u0292ale\u015fi nena-gemktirobaten ixvena\u015fi, dava iqvasunon gecgineri; ma e\u015fo vizmon.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: Musa Begi, mcve\u015fi orapes, iris Lazuri ku\u00e7kit\u0306u do \u011far\u011falapt\u0306u. Mara and\u011faneri d\u011fas didos Lazuri va u\u00e7kin. D\u011fa\u015fen d\u011fa\u015fa, Lazuri nena \u011furun. A\u0292\u0306i Lazuri nena ren meno\u0292xune dersi devleti\u015fi n\u0292\u0306opulapes. Mara ar dolonis ar-jur meno\u0292xune dersiten, Lazuri nena va askiden. E\u015fo i\u017eiren ki, radio-T\u0306V-\u015fi \u00e7\u0306andina ren iri\u015fen xeironi dulya. Mara TRT\u0306-k Lazuri k\u0306anali va\u00a0 gon\u0292\u0306k\u0306ips. Mu p\u0306at do TRT\u0306-k Lazuri k\u0306anali gomin\u0292\u0306k\u0306an?<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011fli: Gi\u00e7kinan; xvala meno\u0292xune dersi va iqu \u00e7are Lazuri nena\u015fi oskidu\u015fa. TRT\u0306-\u015fi Lazuri T\u0306V-ti e\u015fo iqvasunon; xvala Lazuri T\u0306V-ti va iqvasunon \u00e7are Lazuri nena\u015fi oskidu\u015fa; mtelo \u00e7are va iqvasunon. Aya xalikti noka\u00e7oba momi\u011fasunonan aya davas. Lazuri nena\u015fi oskidu\u015fa mtini \u00e7are minonan na, skidala\u015fi mteli speropes do lamtinala\u015fi mteli muessesepes nananena \u00e7kini\u015fi renoba \u015feni\u00a0 ar xali ogoru do arto o\u00e7ali\u015fu doma\u00e7\u0306irnan.<\/p>\n Ar k\u0306u\u00e7xoni \u0292xenis xvala onk\u0306ap\u0306u\u015fi xali var, ogzalu\u015fi xaliti va aqven.\u00a0Xvala\u00a0Lazuri T\u0306V-k, xvala meno\u0292xune dersik va nu\u015fvelasunon Lazuri nena\u015fi oskidu\u015fa.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: Musa Begi, ma tkvan dido \u015fukuri gi\u0292\u0306umert. A\u00e7kva k\u0306itxala va mi\u011fun mara, tkvan guris otkvalu\u015fi \u00e7kva nena gi\u011funan na, eti molami\u015finit, mu iqven! \u015eukuri gi\u0292\u0306umert. \u011eormotik p\u0306anda megi\u015fvelan.<\/p>\n Musa Karaalio\u011fli: Rica go\u011fodap, Cuma, memnuniyetiten! Mi\u00e7kit\u0306an; \u011eormotik \u00e7kar miti \u00e7kar mitis muxtiaci va qvas! Xoloti e\u015fo matkven ma:\u00a0 \u201eOxo\u00e7\u0306k\u0306oduten omudi\u015fi gzas gebdgitat!\u201c<\/p>\n Nananena \u00e7kuni xepe k\u0306oreyi<\/p>\n Uk\u00f6yneli xvala, \u00e7kar u\u0292\u0306k\u0306areli<\/p>\n \u015eurim\u015fine \u00e7kimi kogon\u0292\u0306k\u0306i toli<\/p>\n Muun\u00e7\u0306xepe\u015fa mendemiyoni<\/p>\n Lazuri, na\u00e7xiyalamz po\u011faris\u00a0\u0292\u0306kari<\/p>\n Skidala, dodgina ar mcve\u015fi nca steri<\/p>\n Mjora extasen, \u00e7kar var gextasen<\/p>\n Oropa \u00e7kunik purki gontxasen<\/p>\n (Musa Karaalio\u011fli)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Ali İhsan Aksamaz “Ağlamayana süt vermezler!” (Ön açıklama: Bugünkü misafirim Musa Karaalioğlu. Musa Karaalioğlu, bizim sanatçılarımızdan, kültür insanlarımızdan bir tanesi. Adını 2003‘ten beri birçok kez duymuşluğum var. 2003‘te çıkmış bir albümü var: “Khinci\/ Köprü”; şimdi öyle hatırlıyorum. Bir başka albümü daha var. İkinci albümü „Oropa\/ Aşk“ adını taşıyor. 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