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Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n (\u00d6n a\u00e7\u0131klama: Bug\u00fcnk\u00fc misafirim. Natia Poniava. Natia Poniava, G\u00fcrcistan\u2019\u0131n dilbilimcilerinden ve \u201cMargaluri\u00a0Dovigurat\/ Megrelce \u00d6\u011frenelim” adl\u0131 kitab\u0131n da yazar\u0131. Natia Poniava ile Lazca bir s\u00f6yle\u015fi yapt\u0131m. Biyografisinden ve kitab\u0131ndan konu\u015ftuk. 17 II 2021\/ Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz)<\/p>\n +<\/strong><\/p>\n Ali ihsan Aksamaz:\u00a0<\/strong>Natia han\u0131m, \u00f6nce\u00a0\u00a0bize biyografinizden bahsedin de \u00f6yle ba\u015flayal\u0131m, olur mu?! Nerelisiniz? Nerede do\u011fdunuz? Hangi okullarda \u00f6\u011frenim g\u00f6rd\u00fcn\u00fcz? \u015eimdi nerede ya\u015f\u0131yorsunuz? Ne i\u015f yap\u0131yorsunuz? Nerede \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorsunuz? G\u00fcrc\u00fcce, Megrelce ve Lazcan\u0131n d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda ba\u015fka hangi dilleri biliyorsunuz?<\/p>\n Natia Poniava:\u00a0<\/strong>Sevin\u00e7 ve iyiliklerle!\u00a0Ben, k\u00f6ken olarak\u00a0Martvili\u2019denim\u00a0ancak\u00a0\u00a0\u00c7khorotzku\u2019nun\u00a0g\u00fczel k\u00f6y\u00fc\u00a0\u00c7o\u011fa\u2019da do\u011fdum\u00a0ve b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fcm.\u00a0\u00d6nce \u00c7o\u011fa\u2019daki okulda \u00f6\u011frenim g\u00f6rd\u00fcm.\u00a0Sonra\u00a0Tiflis \u0130vane\u00a0Cavakhi\u015fvili\u00a0\u00dcniversitesinde\u00a0filoloji\u00a0okudum,\u00a0Kafkas dilleri b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnde.\u00a0\u015eimdi de burada\u00a0doktora\u00a0yap\u0131yorum.\u00a0Evim\u00a0\u00c7o\u011fa\u2019da. Bizimkiler \u015fu anda orada ya\u015f\u0131yor\u00a0ancak ben\u00a0Tiflis\u2019teyim.\u00a0Arnold\u00a0\u00c7ikobava\u00a0Dilbilim Enstit\u00fcs\u00fcnde \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum ve\u00a0\u0130lia\u00a0\u00c7av\u00e7avadze\u00a0\u00dcniversitesinde de\u00a0dersler\u00a0veriyorum.\u00a0(Baz\u0131lar\u0131\u00a0G\u00fcney Kafkas Dilleri de diyor)\u00a0Kartvelgil\u00a0dilleri\u00a0ile\u00a0Abkhaz-\u00a0Abaza\u00a0dilleri \u00fczerine \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum. Dillerimizden ba\u015fka,\u00a0\u0130ngilizce,\u00a0T\u00fcrk\u00e7e,\u00a0Azerbaycan T\u00fcrk\u00e7esi,\u00a0Abkhazca\u00a0(Abazaca)\u00a0ve\u00a0biraz da Rus\u00e7a biliyorum.<\/p>\n Ali ihsan Aksamaz:\u00a0<\/strong>L\u00fctfen, \u015fimdi de bize yeni kitab\u0131n\u0131zdan bahsedin: \u201cMegrelce \u00d6\u011frenelim\/ Margaluri\u00a0Dovigurat\u201d. Bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131z ka\u00e7 sayfa? Kitab\u0131n\u0131zda ka\u00e7 ders var? Her derste ka\u00e7 b\u00f6l\u00fcm var? Her dersi hangi b\u00f6l\u00fcmler olu\u015fturuyor?<\/p>\n Natia Poniava<\/strong>:\u00a0<\/strong>Kitab\u0131m\u00a0<\/strong>255\u00a0sayfa. Kitapta 30 ders var. Her derste iki esas b\u00f6l\u00fcm mevcut:\u00a0Birinci b\u00f6l\u00fcmde\u00a0gramer\u00a0ve\u00a0gramer\u00a0al\u0131\u015ft\u0131rmalar\u0131\u00a0veriliyor.\u00a0Onu,\u00a0i\u015flenen konuyla ba\u011flant\u0131l\u0131 kelimeler izliyor:\u00a0Mesel\u00e2,\u00a0aile konusu i\u015fleniyorsa, bu konuyla ilgili\u00a0kelimeler, anne, baba\u00a0vb.\u00a0kelimeler veriliyor. Sonra, i\u015flenen konunun kelimeleriyle,\u00a0kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131\u00a0metin veya\u00a0diyaloglar\u00a0geliyor.\u00a0Baz\u0131\u00a0derslerde hem\u00a0metin\u00a0hem de\u00a0diyalog\u00a0var.\u00a0Her derste, i\u015flenen konuyla\u00a0ba\u011flant\u0131l\u0131 kelimeler, \u015fiirler ve\u00a0\u00f6zl\u00fc s\u00f6zlere de yer veriliyor. B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar bize dilimizin g\u00fczelli\u011fini daha iyi ortaya \u00e7\u0131kars\u0131n diye.\u00a0Ayr\u0131ca kitapta, kullan\u0131lan b\u00fct\u00fcn kelimelerin Megrelce- G\u00fcrc\u00fcce ve G\u00fcrc\u00fcce- Megrelce kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 s\u00f6zl\u00fckleri de yer al\u0131yor.\u00a0Kitab\u0131n CD\u2019sini de haz\u0131rlad\u0131k.\u00a0CD\u2019yi haz\u0131rlamam\u0131zda G\u00fcrcistan Devlet Televizyonu\u00a0da bize yard\u0131mc\u0131 oldu.\u00a0Kitab\u0131n sesli versiyonu hemen televizyonun\u00a0(www.1tv.ge<\/a>) websayfas\u0131na konur da\u00a0sizler de dinleyebilirsiniz.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz:\u00a0<\/strong>Yeni k\u00fclt\u00fcrel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131z var m\u0131? Bize m\u00fcjdeli haberleriniz var m\u0131?<\/p>\n Natia Poniava:\u00a0<\/strong>Kartvelgil dilleri \u00f6\u011frenim\u00a0kitaplar\u0131n\u0131 yay\u0131mlama fikri,\u00a0tarih\u00e7i ve\u00a0\u201cArtanuc\u00a0Yay\u0131nlar\u0131\u201d\u00a0y\u00f6neticisi\u00a0Buba\u00a0Kudava\u2019ya ait.\u00a0\u00d6nce\u00a0\u201cMegrelce \u00d6\u011frenelim\/ Margaluri\u00a0Dovigurat\u201d\u00a0adl\u0131 kitab\u0131m \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.\u00a0\u015eimdi\u00a0\u201cLazca \u00d6\u011frenelim\/ Lazuri\u00a0Dovigurat\u201d\u00a0kitab\u0131 i\u00e7in \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum. Ayr\u0131ca \u00e7ocuklar i\u00e7in \u201cMegrelce \u00d6\u011frenelim\/ Margaluri\u00a0Dovigurat\u201d\u00a0kitab\u0131n\u0131n k\u0131sa ve kolay\u00a0bir versiyonunu da yazmak istiyoruz.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz:\u00a0<\/strong>Natia han\u0131m, bu s\u00f6yle\u015fi i\u00e7in size \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. Sizin ba\u015fka s\u00f6yleyecekleriniz varsa, l\u00fctfen onlar\u0131 da s\u00f6yleyin! Tanr\u0131, sizi her zaman sevindirsin!<\/p>\n Natia Poniava:\u00a0<\/strong>Ali bey,\u00a0bu g\u00fczel s\u00f6yle\u015fi i\u00e7in ben de size \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim!\u00a0S\u00f6yle\u015filerinizi her zaman okuyorum. \u00c7ok g\u00fczel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar yap\u0131yorsunuz.\u00a0\u0130lgin\u00e7 ki\u015fileri bize tan\u0131t\u0131yorsunuz. Bunun i\u00e7in de size te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim!\u00a0Tabii,\u00a0s\u00f6yleyeceklerim var.\u00a0Ben, canla- ba\u015fla istiyorum ki,\u00a0dilimiz kaybolmas\u0131n,\u00a0bizler de birbirimizi kaybetmeyelim.\u00a0\u00dcmit ediyorum ki, biz G\u00fcrcistan\u2019da, siz de T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bu \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli i\u015fi yapabiliriz. Tanr\u0131 sizi de sevindirsin ve korusun!\u00a0\u00d6zlenen\u00a0Lazona\u00a0ile Lazlar\u0131ma sel\u00e2m g\u00f6nderiyorum.\u00a0G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmek temennisiyle!<\/p>\n +<\/strong><\/p>\n \u201c\u00c7kin Okorturas, tkvan Turkiyes nena \u00e7kini voskedinat; aya maxvenenan!\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n (Go\u0292\u0306otkvala: And\u011faneri musafiri \u00e7kimi ren Natia Poniava. Natia Poniava ren Gurcistani\u015fi lingvist\u0306epe\u015fen do \u201cMargaluri\u00a0Dovigurat\u00a0” coxoni ketabi\u015fi avt\u0306ori. Natia Poniava k\u0306ala ar Lazuri int\u0306erviu dop\u0306i ma. Edo biyografi mu\u015fi do ketabi\u00a0mu\u015fi\u015fen b\u011far\u011falit. 17 II 2021\/ Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi)<\/p>\n +<\/strong><\/p>\n Ali ihsan Aksamazi:\u00a0<\/strong>Natia xanumi, ipti biyografi tkvani\u015fen molami\u015finit do e\u015fo gevo\u00e7\u0306k\u0306at, iqveni?! Sonuri ret? So ye\u00e7kindit? Namu n\u0292\u0306opulapes igurit? A\u0292\u0306i so skidut? Mu dulya ikipt? So i\u00e7ali\u015fept? Kortuli, Megruli do Lazuri nenape\u015fi gale \u00e7kva namu nenape gi\u00e7kinan?<\/p>\n Natia Poniava:\u00a0<\/strong>Xelak\u0306aobaten!\u00a0Ma cici\u00a0Mart\u0306vili\u015fen mi\u011fun, mara\u00a0\u00c7xoro\u0292\u0306qu\u015fi ar msk\u0306va oput\u0306e\u00a0\u00c7\u0306o\u011fas dovibadi do dovirdi.\u00a0\u00c7\u0306o\u011fa\u015fi\u00a0n\u0292\u0306opulas viguri, ek\u0306ule\u00a0\u0130vane\u00a0Cavaxi\u015fvili\u015fi\u00a0Karti\u015fi (Tiplisi\u015fi)\u00a0Universit\u0306es\u00a0filoloji vik\u0306itxi,\u00a0K\u0306avk\u0306asuri nenape\u015fi burme\u00a0do a\u0292\u0306iti ak dokt\u0306ora vikip.\u00a0Oxori\u00a0\u00c7\u0306o\u011fas mi\u011fun, \u00e7kimepe a\u0292\u0306iti ek skidunan, mara ma\u00a0Kartis (Tiplisis) vore.\u00a0Arnold\u00a0\u00c7ikobava\u015fi\u00a0Nena\u00e7kina\u015fi\u00a0Enst\u0306it\u0306ut\u0306es vi\u00e7ali\u015fep do\u00a0\u0130lia\u015f\u00a0(\u0130lia\u00a0\u00c7\u0306av\u00e7\u0306ava\u017ee\u015fi)\u00a0Universit\u0306esti dersepe mep\u00e7ap.\u00a0Kartveluri nenape\u00a0(majuranepek na\u00a0Omjore\u00a0K\u0306avk\u0306asuri nenape u\u0292\u0306umelan) do\u00a0Apxazur-\u00a0Abazuri nenape\u015f\u00a0jin vi\u00e7ali\u015fep.\u00a0Nenape \u00e7kini\u015fen \u00e7kva,\u00a0\u0130ngilizuri,\u00a0Turkuli,\u00a0Azerbaicanuli,\u00a0Apxazuri (Abazuri) do am\u0292ika\u00a0Rusuliti komi\u00e7kin.<\/p>\n Ali ihsan Aksamazi:\u00a0<\/strong>Mu iqven, a\u0292\u0306iti a\u011fani ketabi tkvani\u015fen molami\u015finit: \u201cMargaluri\u00a0Dovigurat\u201d. Muk\u0306o gverdoni ren aya no\u00e7ali\u015fe tkvani? Muk\u0306o dersi ge\u017ein ketabi tkvanis? K\u0306arta dersis muk\u0306o no\u0292ile ge\u017ein? Namu no\u0292ilepek \u0292\u0306opxupan k\u0306arta dersi?<\/p>\n Natia Poniava<\/strong>:\u00a0<\/strong>Ketabi \u00e7kimi 255 gverdoni ren.\u00a0Ketabis e\u00e7idovit dersi koren.\u00a0K\u0306arta dersis\u00a0jur didi no\u0292\u0306ile mi\u011funan:\u00a0Maartani no\u0292\u0306iles grameri do grameri\u015f p\u0306rakt\u0306i\u011fi ma\u017eirenan.\u00a0Amus majurani no\u0292\u0306ile noqups temat\u0306uri zit\u0306apeten:\u00a0Mesela, oca\u011fi\u00a0do ham temat\u0306uri gurubi\u015fa na amulun zit\u0306ape \u2212 nana, baba do a\u015fo.\u00a0Amu\u015fk\u0306ule\u00a0temat\u0306uri zit\u0306apeten ok\u0306odgineri t\u0306ekst\u0306i vana dialogi mulun, bazi dersis t\u0306ekst\u0306iti do dialogiti mi\u011funan.\u00a0K\u0306arta dersis,\u00a0temat\u0306uri zit\u0306ape na ixmarinen, lersepe do notkvamepeti koren, nena\u015fi msk\u0306vanoba daa k\u0306ai na mo\u017eirapan\u015feni.\u00a0Ketabis,\u00a0doloxe mu\u015fi na vixmarit zit\u0306apet\u0306en ok\u0306odgineri,\u00a0Margalur-\u00a0Kortuli do\u00a0Kortul-Margaluri nenapunati num\u0292xun.\u00a0Ketabi\u015fi audio\u00a0versioniti pxazirit.\u00a0Audio oxaziru\u015feni\u00a0Okortura\u015fi maartani t\u0306elevizionik, devlet t\u0306elevizionik xuci mom\u00e7es.\u00a0Mani\u015fa ketabi\u015fi audio\u00a0versioni aya t\u0306elevizioni\u015fi vebbut\u0306k\u0306asti\u00a0(www.1tv.ge<\/a>)\u00a0kogidven do tkvati megaqucinenan.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi:\u00a0<\/strong>A\u011fani k\u0306ult\u0306uruli no\u00e7ali\u00e7epe gi\u011funani? Pukironi ambarepe gi\u011funani \u00e7kinda?<\/p>\n Natia Poniava:\u00a0<\/strong>Kartveluri nenape\u015fi doguroni ketabepe\u015fi gama\u00e7kumu\u00a0ist\u0306orik\u0306osi\u00a0do gamam\u00e7kumale\u00a0\u201cArt\u0306anuci\u015fi\u201d\u00a0tigem\u00e7ane\u00a0Buba\u00a0K\u0306udava\u015fi idea t\u0306u.\u00a0\u0292\u0306oxle\u00a0\u201cMargaluri\u00a0Dovigurat\u201d\u00a0coxoni ketabi \u00e7kimi gamaxtu.\u00a0A\u0292\u0306i\u00a0\u201cLazuri\u00a0Dovigurat\u201d\u00a0ketabi\u015feni vi\u00e7ali\u015fep do\u00a0\u201cMargaluri\u00a0Dovigurat\u201d\u00a0ketabi\u015fi mk\u0306ule do k\u0306olai versioni\u015fi on\u00e7\u0306aruti minonan berepe\u00a0\u015feni.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi:\u00a0<\/strong>Natia xanumi, ma dido \u015fukuri go\u011fodapt aya int\u0306erviu\u00a0\u015feni. Tkvan otkvalu\u015fi \u00e7kva nena gi\u011funan na, mu iqven, entepeti mi\u0292\u0306vit! \u011eormotik p\u0306anda goxelan!<\/p>\n Natia Poniava:\u00a0<\/strong>Ali begi, mati didi mardi gi\u0292\u0306umert msk\u0306va int\u0306erviu\u015feni!\u00a0\u0130nt\u0306erviuepe tkvani p\u0306anda vik\u0306itxup.\u00a0Dido msk\u0306va dulya ikipt, oint\u0306eresoni k\u0306o\u00e7epe mo\u00e7inapapt do amu\u015feni didi mardi!\u00a0Moro, otkvalu\u015fi komi\u011fun \u2212 \u015furi do guriten minon, nena \u00e7kini va gondinas, \u00e7kinti artik\u0306arti va govondinat.\u00a0Vimedam, \u00e7kin\u00a0Okorturas do tkvan\u00a0Turkies aya dido beciti dulya maxvenenan.\u00a0Tkvati\u00a0\u011eormotik goxelan do gegxvaman!\u00a0Gon\u00e7\u0306eleri\u00a0Lazona do\u00a0Lazepe \u00e7kimis dido selami vunc\u011fonup.\u00a0Guri k\u0306aiten vi\u017eirat!<\/p>\n +<\/strong><\/p>\n \u201c<\/strong>\u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10dc 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Natia Poniava. Natia Poniava, Gürcistan’ın dilbilimcilerinden ve “Margaluri Dovigurat\/ Megrelce Öğrenelim” adlı kitabın da yazarı. Natia Poniava ile Lazca bir söyleşi yaptım. Biyografisinden ve kitabından konuştuk. 17 II 2021\/ Ali İhsan Aksamaz) + Ali ihsan Aksamaz: Natia hanım, önce bize biyografinizden bahsedin de öyle başlayalım, olur mu?! Nerelisiniz? Nerede doğdunuz? 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