{"id":2879,"date":"2019-02-24T15:52:07","date_gmt":"2019-02-24T15:52:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/?p=2879"},"modified":"2019-02-24T16:47:27","modified_gmt":"2019-02-24T16:47:27","slug":"deli-bir-adige-ile-son-derece-ciddi-bir-roportaj","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/deli-bir-adige-ile-son-derece-ciddi-bir-roportaj\/","title":{"rendered":"DEL\u0130 B\u0130R AD\u0130GE \u0130LE SON DERECE C\u0130DD\u0130 B\u0130R R\u00d6PORTAJ"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2794\" src=\"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/04-SihSamil-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"273\" height=\"118\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><b> <span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u015eIH \u015eamil<br \/>\n<\/span> <\/b> <span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">09 Kas\u0131m 2010<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">M Street\u2019teki ofisimde otururken, sekreterim misafiriniz var dedi. Buyursun dedim. \u0130\u00e7eri 55-60 ya\u015flar\u0131nda bir bey girdi.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/cc-turkiye\/shik-samil\/images\/025.GIF\" width=\"321\" height=\"231\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\nWashington CC towerdaki ofisimde Deli Bekir projelerini anlat\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p><strong> Unutmadan merakl\u0131 okuyucular\u0131m i\u00e7in yazay\u0131m: <\/strong> Hafta i\u00e7i Stef\u0131n Vily\u0131m Havking\u2019in art\u0131k bir iki kelime konu\u015fabildi\u011fini bana resmi yollardan ilettiler. \u0130leriki bir tarihte t\u0131p d\u00fcnyas\u0131 i\u00e7in bir konferans verece\u011fim. Nas\u0131l bir de\u011fere sahipsiniz bilin diye yaz\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n<p>Neyse beni ziyaret eden konu\u011fuma d\u00f6neyim: Ad\u0131 Bekir\u2019mi\u015f. Kendine Deli Bekir denmesinden ho\u015flan\u0131yormu\u015f. \u00d6nce tamam \u00e7att\u0131k, dedim. Fakat konu\u015ftuk\u00e7a enteresan geldi. Ben de bu konu\u015fmay\u0131 r\u00f6portaj format\u0131na \u00e7evirip size sunuyorum. Hep ben konu\u015facak de\u011fil ya. Biraz da halk\u0131m\u0131z konu\u015fsun\u2026.<\/p>\n<p><strong> DEL\u0130 B\u0130R AD\u0130GE \u0130LE SON DERECE C\u0130DD\u0130 B\u0130R R\u00d6PORTAJ<\/strong><b><br \/>\n<\/b> CC and CNN Report, 09 Kas\u0131m 2010<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> \u00d6nce kendinizi tan\u0131t\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> Ad\u0131m Bekir ama ben Deli Bekir olarak lanse etmenizi rica ediyorum. Adige\u2019yim. T\u00fcrkiye diasporas\u0131nda ya\u015f\u0131yorum. 60 ya\u015f\u0131mday\u0131m ve evliyim.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Size niye Deli Bekir dememizi istiyorsunuz?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc o kadar \u00e7ok ak\u0131ll\u0131m\u0131z var ki, onlar\u0131n yan\u0131nda ben ancak deli olarak kendimi niteliyorum.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Peki \u015fimdi sizi dinliyorum. Buyurun aktar\u0131n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerinizi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> \u00c7erkes fikir hayat\u0131nda radikalimz hakimdir. Taaaa Rus-Kafkas sava\u015flar\u0131ndan g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcze kadar bu b\u00f6yle. Y\u0131kal\u0131m, yakal\u0131m, ele ge\u00e7irelim mant\u0131\u011f\u0131 vard\u0131r \u00c7erkes ayd\u0131n\u0131nda. Herkes toptanc\u0131. Herkes anavatana \u00e7eki d\u00fczen verece\u011fini iddia eder. Birle\u015fik\u00e7isi de anavatan\u0131, y\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131z, devirece\u011fiz, de\u011fi\u015ftirece\u011fiz der, vak\u0131fc\u0131s\u0131 da. Yurtseveri de yurtsevmeyeni de. Adama diyorsun ki, dil \u00f6l\u00fcyor. Tamam da \u00f6nce y\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131z, devirece\u011fiz, de\u011fi\u015ftirece\u011fiz sonra dil i\u015fine bakaca\u011f\u0131z. Ya sen bo\u015f ver y\u0131k\u0131p d\u00f6kmeyi, dilin yok olmamas\u0131 i\u00e7in kitap bast\u0131r. Yok y\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131z\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Bu radikallerin hi\u00e7 mi iyi yanlar\u0131 yok?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> Radikaller tembeldir. Uzun vadeli, sab\u0131rl\u0131 i\u015f yapamaz. \u00c7erkeslerin bu bir hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r. Rusya kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda ezildi\u011fi i\u00e7in ya da sava\u015fta yenildi\u011fi i\u00e7in, herkes -filozof \u00c7erkes\u2019i de dahil- topyekuncu bak\u0131yor olaya. \u0130\u015fte efendim gelece\u011fiz b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00c7erkesya\u2019y\u0131 kuraca\u011f\u0131z, yakaca\u011f\u0131z, y\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131z. Yahu eve temizlik\u00e7i \u00e7a\u011f\u0131r\u0131yorsun, diyorsun ki, yerleri sil, mutfa\u011f\u0131 derle topla, camlar\u0131 sil, o sana diyor ki, yok \u00f6nce \u015fu kap\u0131lar\u0131 s\u00f6k\u00fcp yerlerine yeni kap\u0131lar takaca\u011f\u0131m. Bu duvar burada fazla y\u0131k\u0131p salona kataca\u011f\u0131m. Yahu karde\u015fim sen benim istedi\u011fimi yapsana sana ne kap\u0131dan, duvardan! Bir g\u00fcn gelir temiz bir projeyle gelirsin, ben \u015fu fabrikalar\u0131 d\u00fczenleyece\u011fim, \u015fu sa\u011fl\u0131k sistemini getirece\u011fim, e\u011fitimde \u015fu \u015fu y\u00f6ntemleri uygulayaca\u011f\u0131m dersin.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Olur mu \u00f6yle \u015fey!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> Sen duvarlar\u0131 y\u0131k\u0131yorsun oluyor da ben senden nedir karde\u015fim re\u00e7eten deyince neden olmuyor? \u0130\u015fte radikal mant\u0131\u011f\u0131 var sende de ondan ayak diretiyorsun. Eski, yeni fark etmiyor kim ortaya \u00e7\u0131ksa b\u00fcy\u00fck radikal kararlar al\u0131yor. Hepsi\u2026 Birle\u015fik\u00e7isi, vak\u0131fc\u0131s\u0131\u2026 Bu bir ruh hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r. Temiz ve uzun \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma yapamaz bu insanlar. Nitekim saman alevi gibi \u00e7\u0131karlar ortaya sonra kaybolurlar. \u0130\u015fte 7 milyonluk \u00c7erkes diasporas\u0131nda 140 y\u0131lda ka\u00e7 kitap yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r? Ben diyeyim 10 siz deyin 50. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc kitap yazmak uzun soluklu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma ister. 5 y\u0131l \u00e7al\u0131\u015facaks\u0131n, 10 y\u0131l \u00e7al\u0131\u015facaks\u0131n, belgeleri toplayacaks\u0131n, uzmanlarla g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015feceksin, bunlar\u0131 bir disiplin i\u00e7inde ka\u011f\u0131da d\u00f6keceksin\u2026 Ya hesap edin \u00c7erkes i\u00e7erikli bir dergi 100 tane bile satm\u0131yor. Ancak \u015f\u00f6yle bir bak\u0131n \u00c7erkes internet sitesine 1000 tane yazar bulursun. \u00d6n\u00fcne gelen yaz\u0131yor. \u0130\u015fte radikalizmin geldi\u011fi nokta bu. Okuyucusundan \u00e7ok radikal yazarlar\u0131 olan bir toplum.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> \u0130yi de sizin \u00f6neriniz nedir ne yaps\u0131n bu \u00c7erkes insan\u0131?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> \u00c7erkes toplumuna sab\u0131rl\u0131, disiplinli, yumu\u015fak, \u00c7in\u2019in \u00e7eltik tarlalar\u0131ndaki i\u015f\u00e7iler gibi her g\u00fcn tarlas\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131na giden, sab\u0131rla i\u015fini yapan basit insanlara ihtiya\u00e7 var. Disiplinli ve basit. Sizin sitenizin yazarlar\u0131ndan Hatam\u2019\u0131n dedi\u011fi gibi maratoncu laz\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Ne yani; hi\u00e7 geli\u015fmeye, evrilmeye y\u00f6nelik d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeyecek miyiz?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> D\u00fcnyay\u0131, anavatan\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirme d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceleri tabi ki olacak. \u015e\u00f6yle olsun, b\u00f6yle olsun. Fakat herkes kendi i\u015fini \u00f6ncelikli yapacak. Bakkal \u00c7erkes \u00f6nce iyi bakkal olacak, \u015fark\u0131c\u0131 \u00c7erkes iyi \u015fark\u0131c\u0131 olacak. Bir kibrit \u00e7\u00f6p\u00fc \u00fcretemez, bir k\u00fcmes yap desen yapamaz, moda yapamaz, sab\u0131rl\u0131 bir bilim adaml\u0131\u011f\u0131 yapamaz, hepsi her g\u00fcn d\u00fcnyalar yarat\u0131r. \u0130lk s\u00fcrg\u00fcn g\u00fcn\u00fcnden bu g\u00fcne kadar ayd\u0131n \u00c7erkes k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc, y\u0131kmak, alay etmek, devirmek, de\u011fi\u015ftirmek \u00fczerine kurulu. Tabi ki, de\u011fi\u015fim olacakt\u0131r. Ancak bu r\u00fczgar\u0131n kayan\u0131n \u015feklini de\u011fi\u015ftirmesi gibi olur. Bir g\u00fcn bakars\u0131n sivri sivri kayalar yuvarlar kayalar haline gelmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Peki \u00c7erkes halk\u0131 ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor sizce?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> Valla \u00c7erkes halk\u0131n\u0131 bilmem ama gen\u00e7lerde pirim g\u00f6r\u00fcyor bu radikaller. \u0130nternet siteleri a\u00e7\u0131yorlar, vak\u0131flar a\u00e7\u0131yorlar ama bir tek \u00fcrettikleri bir \u015fey yok. Zaten \u00fcretemezler de.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> \u00c7ok ac\u0131mas\u0131z bir ele\u015ftiri olmad\u0131 m\u0131?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> Niye olsun. 140 y\u0131ld\u0131r \u00c7erkeslerin anavatan d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda \u00fcretti\u011fi bir kibrit \u00e7\u00f6p\u00fc var m\u0131? 140 y\u0131ld\u0131r bir tek film \u00fcretildi mi? Bir tek d\u00fcnya \u015fampiyonu \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131k m\u0131? Bu durum Rusya kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131ndaki ezikli\u011fin yans\u0131mas\u0131d\u0131r. Bu a\u011f\u0131r bir radikalizm hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r. Bu diaspora \u00c7erkeslerinin hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r. T\u00fcm toplumlar iyi k\u00f6t\u00fc kendilerini geli\u015ftirmi\u015fler. Ulusla\u015fm\u0131\u015flar. Diaspora anavatana d\u00f6nmeden ya\u015famay\u0131 tercih etti\u011fi i\u00e7in her \u015feyi bir \u00e7\u0131rp\u0131da ge\u00e7mek istiyorlar.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Peki \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm ne?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> Bak\u0131n size bir \u00f6rnek vereyim. U\u00e7ak g\u00f6vdeleri yunus bal\u0131\u011f\u0131na benzer de\u011fil mi? 1900\u2019l\u00fc y\u0131llarda bizimkiler, bize kucak a\u00e7an Osmanl\u0131\u2019ya ko\u015far ad\u0131m giderken u\u00e7ak m\u00fchendisleri u\u00e7ak tasar\u0131mlar\u0131 yapmaya ba\u015flad\u0131lar. G\u00f6vde ve kanat \u00fczerinde projeler \u00fcretmeye ba\u015flad\u0131lar. Bu m\u00fchendisler tutup yakal\u0131m, y\u0131kal\u0131m demedi, biz yunus bal\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi g\u00f6vde yapal\u0131m demedi. Y\u00fcz binlerce m\u00fchendis y\u00fcz y\u0131l boyunca, r\u00fczgar deneyleri yaparak, milim milim geli\u015ftirerek \u015fu anki g\u00f6vdeye ula\u015ft\u0131lar. \u0130\u015fte \u00c7erkes ayd\u0131n\u0131 bu t\u00fcr geli\u015fmelerin alt\u0131nda ezildi kald\u0131. \u015eimdi oturup diyorlar ki, u\u00e7a\u011f\u0131n g\u00f6vdesi tam yunus bal\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi oldu. \u0130\u015fte di\u011fer toplumlardaki geli\u015fme ile bizim geri kalm\u0131\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n aras\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131k\u00e7a ayd\u0131n \u00c7erkes ezildi ve radikalle\u015fti. Y\u0131kal\u0131m, yakal\u0131m devirelim noktas\u0131na geldi kald\u0131. Bak\u0131n radikalizm hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131na tutulmu\u015f \u00c7erkeslere bir tane proje \u00fcreten var m\u0131? Bulamazs\u0131n\u0131z.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Bir daha soruyorum \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm ne?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> D\u00fcnyay\u0131, anavatan\u0131 kurtarmay\u0131 b\u0131rak. \u00d6nce sen bir i\u015fe ba\u015fla. Bir d\u00fckkan a\u00e7. Biri mal\u0131n\u0131 al\u0131r, biri almaz. M\u00fc\u015fteri gelir gelmez. \u00d6nce a\u00e7 bir d\u00fckkan\u0131. Zorluklar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r. Ben bir d\u00fckkan a\u00e7aca\u011f\u0131m sonra kendime apartman dikece\u011fim deme. \u00d6nce a\u00e7 d\u00fckkan\u0131. Kendini a\u015fmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> \u00c7ok ac\u0131mas\u0131zs\u0131n\u0131z!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> Yoo\u2026 De\u011filim. Gelin a\u00e7al\u0131m internet sitelerini tek tek inceleyelim. 500 yazar vard\u0131r. Bunlar\u0131n hayatlar\u0131na bak\u0131n, bir tanesinin tek bir kitab\u0131 yoktur, ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olduklar\u0131 bir tek sanat dal\u0131 ya da spor dal\u0131 yoktur. Ancak 400 tane a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131m, 800 tane anavatana ak\u0131l verme, 600 tane 21 May\u0131s\u2019\u0131 unutmayaca\u011f\u0131z g\u00f6r\u00fcrs\u00fcn\u00fcz. \u00d6nce hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131 te\u015fhis edelim. 140 y\u0131lda elimizde ne bir sinema var, ne bilimsel bir kaynak var, ne ekonomik bir yat\u0131r\u0131m var ama hala \u00fcf\u00fcren \u00fcf\u00fcrene, sallayan sallayana. Bu radikal anlay\u0131\u015f insan\u0131m\u0131za, \u00fcf\u00fcrmeyi, sallamay\u0131 \u00f6\u011fretti. Bu da zaman i\u00e7inde \u00c7erkes toplumunun \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fcmesini getirdi. Uzmanl\u0131k i\u00e7in 10 y\u0131ll\u0131k bir zaman gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yler bilim adamlar\u0131. Dikkat edin uzmanl\u0131k diyorum, ustal\u0131k ya da \u00f6\u011fretmenlik de\u011fil, sadece \u00e7\u0131plak uzman olmak i\u00e7in 10 y\u0131l gerekiyor. Ustal\u0131k ya da y\u00f6neticilik a\u015famas\u0131na gelmek i\u00e7in 25 y\u0131l. Bizimkilere bak\u0131yorsun adam birka\u00e7 y\u0131l i\u00e7inde atl\u0131yo, z\u0131pl\u0131yo bir de bak\u0131yorsunuz anavatan\u0131 kurtaran kaplan oluyor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Peki anla\u015f\u0131ld\u0131. Son s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fcz nedir?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> Radikalizm b\u00fcy\u00fck bir sosyal hastal\u0131kt\u0131r, kemiklerinizi \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcr. 50 ya\u015f\u0131n\u0131za geldi\u011finizde hi\u00e7bir \u015fey yapmam\u0131\u015f adam olarak ortada kal\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z ve \u00fcstelik birilerinin sizin \u00fczerinizden siyaset yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 sizi kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir insan olur \u00e7\u0131kars\u0131n\u0131z.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim say\u0131n Deli Bekir.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deli Bekir:<\/strong> Ben de d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerimi okuyucular\u0131n\u0131za iletmemi sa\u011flad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. 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