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\u015eIH \u015eamil Abhazlar\u0131 bo\u011fazlamak i\u00e7in f\u0131rsat kollarkene Adigelerle kanka olmak isteyen Saaka\u015fvili arad\u0131. \u015eamil bey sizinle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmez, demi\u015f Mericeyn. Ancak \u00e7ok \u0131srar etmi\u015f. O da ba\u011flad\u0131. <\/span><\/p>\n \u00c7ok heyecanl\u0131yd\u0131, kekeleyerek; say\u0131n \u015e\u0131h’\u0131m (bana \u015e\u0131h demelerine \u00e7ok k\u0131z\u0131yorum, \u00f6\u011fretemedik bir t\u00fcrl\u00fc. \u015e\u0131x benim soyad\u0131m \u015e\u0131h de\u011fil… Neyse…) sizin gibi y\u00fcksek de\u011fere sahip bir gasteciyle bir arada olmak benim i\u00e7in \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli, biliyorsun karizmam yerle bir oldu. Bunu bir tek siz d\u00fczeltebilirsiniz. \u00d6\u011frendim Adige’ymi\u015finiz. O nedenle sizi devlet saray\u0131nda yeme\u011fe davet ediyorum Tiflis’in en g\u00fczel otelinde de yer ay\u0131rtt\u0131m, dedi.<\/p>\n Bu kadar uzun ve kesintisiz yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131ma bakmay\u0131n. S\u0131k s\u0131k yutkunuyor, bo\u011faz\u0131n\u0131 temizleyerek konu\u015fuyordu.<\/p>\n Ben de ”olmaz” dedim. Tiflis’te ne i\u015fim var. Gel Moskova’da bulu\u015fal\u0131m, dedim. Kar\u015f\u0131dan bir ”h\u0131cccjjjkkk” sesi geldi. Tamam, tamam \u015faka yapt\u0131m. Moskova olmaz ortalarda bir yerde bulu\u015fal\u0131m, Amsterdam iyi mi diye pas verdim. An\u0131nda ofsayta d\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Olur ama redlightlara gidersek paralar senden dedi.<\/p>\n Redligt detay\u0131na girmeyeyim \u015fimdi, bilen bilir…<\/p>\n Benim i\u015fim olmaz oralarda, geliyon mu, gelmiyon mu diye keskin bir ses tonuyla sordum.<\/p>\n Tabikine, dedi.<\/p>\n Inter Continental Amstel otelinde bulu\u015ftuk. \u00d6nce yemek yedik, sonra r\u00f6portaj i\u00e7in lobiye ge\u00e7tik. \u0130\u015fte r\u00f6portaj a\u015fa\u011f\u0131da.<\/p>\n \u015e\u0131x \u015eamil: Ba\u015ftan s\u00f6yleyeyim sonradan aram\u0131zda sorun \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n. Ben ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131 gasteciyim. Beni ‘copy-paste’ci gasteci bozuntular\u0131yla kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131rmay\u0131n. Ben \u00e7anak soru sormam. ŞIH Şamil 11 Ocak 2010 Abhazları boğazlamak için fırsat kollarkene Adigelerle kanka olmak isteyen Saakaşvili aradı. Şamil bey sizinle görüşmez, demiş Mericeyn. Ancak çok ısrar etmiş. O da bağladı. Mihail Saakaşvili ile Intercontinental Amstel otelinin lobisinde röportaj yaparkene… Arkadakiler Saakaşvilinin korumaları… Çok heyecanlıydı, kekeleyerek; sayın Şıh’ım (bana Şıh demelerine çok kızıyorum, öğretemedik bir türlü. 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\n<\/span> <\/b> 11 Ocak 2010<\/span><\/p>\n![](\"http:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/cc-turkiye\/shik-samil\/images\/034.GIF\")
\nMihail Saaka\u015fvili ile Intercontinental Amstel otelinin lobisinde
\nr\u00f6portaj yaparkene… Arkadakiler Saaka\u015fvilinin korumalar\u0131…<\/p>\n
\nM\u0130HA\u0130L SAAKA\u015eV\u0130L\u0130 ile YEMEKTEYD\u0130K<\/span>
\n<\/strong> CC and CNN Report, 11 Ocak 2011<\/p>\n
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Bilmez miyim. T\u00fcm r\u00f6portajlar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 okudum.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Peki \u00e7ekinmiyor musunuz benden? Kontra soru sorarsam size de…
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Siz Adige de\u011fil misiniz?
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Evet…
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> O zaman korkmam.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Uh! Niyeymi\u015f?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Niyesi var m\u0131? Siz amcao\u011flu dedi\u011finiz Abhazlara \u00e7ok iyi bir ders verdiniz. Bizim yapamad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 siz yapt\u0131n\u0131z.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> O ha! Pardon… Nas\u0131l yapm\u0131\u015f\u0131z onu?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Nas\u0131l\u0131 var m\u0131? Sizin Adigeler de\u011fil miydi bizim haz\u0131rlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u00c7erkes Sorunu \u00dczerine Konferans’a ko\u015ftura ko\u015ftura gelen.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Ha \u015fu mesele! Ulan say\u0131n Saaka\u015fvili, o toplant\u0131ya gelenlerin bir tane resmi Adige \u00f6rg\u00fctlerinden kat\u0131lan var m\u0131yd\u0131? Gelen bir iki hamu\u015fgutu siz Adige mi sand\u0131n\u0131z?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Olsun! \u00d6zellikle T\u00fcrkiye diasporas\u0131nda baz\u0131 vak\u0131f ve ajanslar bizi yerlere g\u00f6klere koyamad\u0131lar.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Niye?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Niyesi var m\u0131? Biz 2018 Olimpiyatlar\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 bayrak a\u00e7t\u0131k. Niye a\u00e7t\u0131k. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc Adige karde\u015flerimiz soyk\u0131r\u0131ma u\u011frad\u0131lar. Esaret alt\u0131ndalar. Onlar\u0131n haklar\u0131n\u0131 korumak bizim temel g\u00f6revlerimizden biridir.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Bir kere Olimpiyat 2012’de… \u0130kincisi, siz niye Abhazlar\u0131 esaret alt\u0131nda tutmaya heveslendiniz? Ruslar yap\u0131nca k\u00f6t\u00fc de siz yap\u0131nca iyi mi oluyor?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Redlightlara ne zaman gitcez?
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Sorum \u00e7ok mu zor geldi?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Yok ondan de\u011fil. Gecikmeyelim diye dediydim.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Bo\u015f ver \u015fimdi. D\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn de\u011fil bayram de\u011fil, sen \u015fimdi niye bize eni\u015fte muamelesi yapt\u0131n? Bunu de hele bana…
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> A\u015fk olsun. Adigelerle bizim ortak bir tarihimiz, ortak bir k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fcz var.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Abhazlarla yok muydu?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Olmaz olur mu var tabikine. Amma onlar bize kafa tutuyorlar. Asi davran\u0131yorlar. Ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131k, \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck, kendi kaderimizi biz kendimiz tayin ederiz, diyorlar.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Neyse… \u015eimdi sana \u00e7anak olmayan bir soru soraca\u011f\u0131m. \u00d6yle k\u0131v\u0131rtmadan \u00e7attadanak cevap ver. Sorum \u015fu: \u015eimdi bu Abhaz hainleri size kar\u015f\u0131 bayrak a\u00e7t\u0131lar ve de ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131k, \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck diyorlar. Sizde onlar\u0131 bir ka\u015f\u0131k suda bo\u011fmak i\u00e7in elinizden geleni ard\u0131n\u0131za koymad\u0131n\u0131z. Yani bu Abhazlar sizin i\u00e7in birer asi. Pekala… Bu Adigeler de Ruslara kar\u015f\u0131 birer asi. Sen nas\u0131l oluyor da asilerden yana oluyorsun? E\u011fer uluslar\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z ya\u015famas\u0131 senin i\u00e7in temel olan ise Abhazlar\u0131n yakas\u0131ndan neden zaman\u0131nda d\u00fc\u015fmedin?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Redlightlar ne zaman kapan\u0131yor acaba? Gecikmesek…
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Anla\u015f\u0131ld\u0131… Senin buraya gelmekteki derdin ba\u015fkaym\u0131\u015f.
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Vallaha da billaha da senin i\u00e7in geldim \u015eamil bey…
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Peki bir soru daha… Bu toplant\u0131daki hedefinizi neydi?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> \u00dc\u00e7 \u00f6nemli ama \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli hedefimiz vard\u0131:
\n1) G\u00fcrcistan \u00c7erkes soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 kabul edecek.
\n2) Soyk\u0131r\u0131m topraklar\u0131nda So\u00e7i 2014 K\u0131\u015f Olimpiyat Oyunlar\u0131 engellenecek.
\n3) Kuzey Kafkasya\u2019n\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in g\u00fc\u00e7ler birle\u015ftirilecek.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Peki G\u00fcrcistan Abhaz soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 da kabul etcek miydi?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Biz Abhaz karde\u015flerimize soyk\u0131r\u0131m yapmad\u0131k, onlara mutluluk ve huzur getirdik ama onlar istemedi. Bizde zorla vermeye kalk\u0131nca h\u0131r \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Peki Ermeniler der ki, T\u00fcrkiye’de bize soyk\u0131r\u0131m yap\u0131ld\u0131. Onun i\u00e7in de Ermenilere destek amac\u0131yla T\u00fcrkiye’yi boykot edecek misiniz?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Olur mu? T\u00fcrkler bizim can karde\u015flerimizdir. Abhazlarla sava\u015fta d\u00fcnya kadar yard\u0131mlar\u0131 oldu bize.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Neyse kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131rma \u015fimdi o konular\u0131. En \u00e7ok \u015fu Kuzey Kafkasya’n\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131na tak\u0131ld\u0131m ben. Kuzey Kafkasya’da 5-10 tane cumhuriyet var ve hepsinin dili farkl\u0131, \u0131rk\u0131 farkl\u0131, k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc farkl\u0131, hatta dini farkl\u0131. Siz neye dayanarak Kuzey Kafkasya tan\u0131m\u0131 yap\u0131yorsunuz?
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Olur mu? Bir \u00c7e\u00e7enle bir Oset’in her \u015feyi ayn\u0131. Ha bir tek dilleri farkl\u0131… Pardon dinleri de farkl\u0131yd\u0131… Aman bir de \u0131rklar\u0131 farkl\u0131yd\u0131…
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Senin kafan baya kar\u0131\u015f\u0131k say\u0131n Saaka\u015fvili.
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\n<\/strong> Mihail Saaka\u015fvili :<\/strong> Redlightlara gecikmesek.
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\n\u015eIH \u015eamil:<\/strong> Anla\u015f\u0131ld\u0131… Garsonu \u00e7a\u011f\u0131ray\u0131m. Waiter o\u011flum gel bakim buraya. (Cahil okuyucuya not: Waiter garson demek. Garson k\u0131z ise Waitress denir.) \u015eu adam\u0131 al\u0131n redlighta g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcn. Benim u\u00e7ak rezervasyonumu da de\u011fi\u015ftirin. Va\u015fington’a geri d\u00f6n\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"