{"id":3218,"date":"2019-02-25T14:07:49","date_gmt":"2019-02-25T14:07:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/?p=3218"},"modified":"2019-02-25T14:07:49","modified_gmt":"2019-02-25T14:07:49","slug":"cecenya-ve-islamiyet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/cecenya-ve-islamiyet\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c7E\u00c7ENYA ve \u0130SLAM\u0130YET"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\"><b>Kuban Paul Seauhmann<br \/>\n<\/b><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"> 17.02.2003<\/span><\/p>\n<p>25 Kas\u0131m 2003 tarihli Vatan gazetesinde insan\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n pek de dikkatini \u00e7ekmedi\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz bir haber yay\u0131nland\u0131. Habere konu olan hem\u015fehrimiz Loali, 1996 y\u0131l\u0131nda sava\u015fmak i\u00e7in Kafkasya&#8217;ya gitmi\u015f ve orda kalm\u0131\u015f. Bu haberde \u0130stanbul\u2019u bombalayan ter\u00f6ristlerin \u00c7e\u00e7enya\u2019yla ilgisi konusu nedeniyle kendisiyle r\u00f6portaj yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Loali\u2019de \u00c7e\u00e7enya\u2019n\u0131n bir ba\u015fka profilini \u00e7\u0131karm\u0131\u015f. \u015eunu da belirtmekte yarar var; Rusya i\u00e7inde masum insanlar\u0131 \u00f6ld\u00fcren canl\u0131 bombac\u0131lar\u0131n \u00c7e\u00e7en halk\u0131yla hi\u00e7bir ilgisi yok. Kim olduklar\u0131 malumunuzdur.<\/p>\n<p>Bug\u00fcne dek, \u00fczerinde her zaman tarafl\u0131 yay\u0131n ve yorumlar\u0131n yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00c7e\u00e7enya\u2019daki sava\u015f\u0131n ger\u00e7ek y\u00f6n\u00fcn\u00fc g\u00f6rmemiz a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan \u00f6nemli bir haber.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u00c7e\u00e7enler siyasal \u0130slamc\u0131lar\u0131 sevmez\u201d ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 haberde Loali \u00f6nemli a\u00e7\u0131klamalarda bulunuyor.<\/p>\n<p>Gerek T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den gerek di\u011fer \u0130slam \u00fclkelerinden, \u00c7e\u00e7enya\u2019ya nas\u0131l s\u0131zmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131 ve sava\u015f\u0131n politik y\u00f6n\u00fcn\u00fc nas\u0131l de\u011fi\u015ftirdikleri zaten biliniyordu. Ancak \u00f6zellikle dillendirilmiyordu.<\/p>\n<p>Haberin genelinde ve Loali\u2019nin s\u00f6ylediklerinde mihenk ta\u015f\u0131: \u201cRadikal \u0130slamc\u0131lar \u00c7e\u00e7enya\u2019da sevilmezlerdi. Kendi \u00e7\u0131karlar\u0131 i\u00e7in geldikleri bilinirdi\u201d s\u00f6z\u00fcd\u00fcr.<\/p>\n<p>Kuzey Kafkasya\u2019n\u0131n genelinde bu antipati zaten var. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de yap\u0131lan islami propagandan\u0131n etkisi sadece kendi i\u00e7inde. Yani g\u00fcne\u015fi bal\u00e7\u0131kla s\u0131vama \u00e7abas\u0131. Hi\u00e7bir Kuzey Kafkas Cumhuriyeti bu canilere sempatiyle bakamaz zaten. Nedenini yine Loali\u2019nin s\u00f6z\u00fcyle aktaral\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u00c7e\u00e7enya\u2019da siyasal \u0130slam sevilmez. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00c7e\u00e7enlerin gelenekleri siyasal \u0130slam&#8217;a ayk\u0131r\u0131d\u0131r. Onlar da bu durumu g\u00f6r\u00fcnce bozulup giderler\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Buradaki tan\u0131ma dikkatinizi \u00e7ekmek isterim. \u201cSiyasal \u0130slam\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Her zaman dedi\u011fimiz gibi hi\u00e7bir \u00c7erkes kimsenin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 dine kar\u0131\u015fmaz, ho\u015fg\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcd\u00fcr. Ancak kim inanc\u0131n\u0131 dayatmaya d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr\u00fcrse, gerekli yan\u0131t\u0131 b\u00f6yle al\u0131r. Yani siyasalla\u015fan din, ne gelenek tan\u0131r ne anane. Do\u011fal olarak da bunun kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcr.<\/p>\n<p>Loali s\u00f6zlerine \u015f\u00f6yle devam ediyor. \u00a0\u201cSiyasi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerini aktarmak isteyenler \u00c7e\u00e7enistan&#8217;a geldi. Turanc\u0131s\u0131 da a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 \u0130slamc\u0131s\u0131 da. Ama bu ama\u00e7la gelenlerin hi\u00e7biri uzun s\u00fcre kalamad\u0131. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc oradaki herkes bu insanlar\u0131n \u00c7e\u00e7enlerin amac\u0131na de\u011fil, kendi ama\u00e7lar\u0131na hizmet ettiklerini biliyordu. Bu y\u00fczden hi\u00e7bir zaman sahiplenilmediler.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Yani, tarih bu kadar tekerr\u00fcr eder. Sanki bire bir ayn\u0131. \u201cSald\u0131r\u0131n yi\u011fitler arkan\u0131zday\u0131z\u201d deyip, arkam\u0131za d\u00f6nd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fczde toz olmu\u015f Osmanl\u0131lar\u0131n, \u00c7erkeslere yapt\u0131klar\u0131 ihanetlerin alt\u0131nda hep ayn\u0131 neden yatm\u0131yor muydu? Bizim kara ka\u015f\u0131m\u0131za m\u0131 \u0130slam&#8217;\u0131 getirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131lar topraklar\u0131m\u0131za? Daha sonra ne oldu? Osmanl\u0131 topraklar\u0131na s\u00fcrg\u00fcn edilen \u00c7erkesler insanl\u0131k d\u0131\u015f\u0131 bir zeminde bulmad\u0131lar m\u0131 kendilerini? On binlerce insan\u0131m\u0131z a\u00e7l\u0131ktan susuzluktan, hastal\u0131klardan \u00f6lmedi mi? O zaman\u0131n Trabzon\u2019daki yetkilinin padi\u015faha \u201cacil adam yollay\u0131n burada \u00f6len \u00c7erkesleri g\u00f6mecek kadar adam\u0131m\u0131z yok\u201d diye mesajlar yollamad\u0131 m\u0131?<\/p>\n<p>E\u011fer \u00c7erkesler, Osmanl\u0131lar\u0131n arkalar\u0131na bile bakmadan ka\u00e7t\u0131klar\u0131 cephede; Ruslara kar\u015f\u0131 zafer kazansayd\u0131 acaba ne olurdu? Bir d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn bakal\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7e\u00e7enya, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den bak\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi de\u011fil. Bunu zaman zaman dile getirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz. Loali\u2019nin ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 belki insan\u0131m\u0131z da baz\u0131 ufuklar a\u00e7ar.<\/p>\n<p>Bak\u0131n ba\u015fka ne diyor \u00c7e\u00e7en hem\u015fehrimiz: \u201c\u00c7e\u00e7enistan&#8217;a a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 \u0130slamc\u0131 diyenler de vard\u0131r ama \u0130slamiyet&#8217;i tam bilmiyorlar. \u00d6rne\u011fin Da\u011f\u0131stanl\u0131 bir arkada\u015f\u0131m vard\u0131. Namaz k\u0131lar, ard\u0131ndan birahaneye giderdi. Veya camiye sarho\u015f gelen \u00e7ok olurdu. E\u011fer o zaman biz &#8216;Siz yanl\u0131\u015fs\u0131n\u0131z&#8217; diyerek bask\u0131 kursayd\u0131k bizi kabul etmezlerdi.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7e\u00e7enya\u2019y\u0131 iyi tahlil etmek gerek. Yoksa, 1864\u2019de oldu\u011fu gibi; \u015fimdi de onlar arkalar\u0131na bakmadan cepheden ka\u00e7arlar. Sonra yeni s\u00fcrg\u00fcnler, yeni ac\u0131lar\u0131 biz \u00e7ekeriz.<\/p>\n<p>Hi\u00e7 endi\u015feniz olmas\u0131n, \u00c7e\u00e7enya\u2019ya \u015feriat getirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan Vahabi\u2019si, T\u00fcrk\u2019\u00fc, Arap\u2019\u0131 kap\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7arlar.<\/p>\n<p>Ancak tarih yine tekerr\u00fcr eder bundan emin olun. \u0130nanm\u0131yorsan\u0131z gidip \u00dcmraniye\u2019deki \u00c7e\u00e7en kamp\u0131n\u0131 bir g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u2026<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>NOT:<\/strong> Bir okuyucumuzdan mail geldi. E-mail adresini yazmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in buradan yan\u0131t vermek zorunda kald\u0131k. Ad\u0131n\u0131 vermedi\u011fi i\u00e7in e-mailini aynen yay\u0131nl\u0131yoruz.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;<\/em><em>25 Aral\u0131k 2003 tarihli Vatan gazetesinde insan\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n pek de dikkatini \u00e7ekmedi\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz bir haber yay\u0131nland\u0131. Habere konu olan hem\u015fehrimiz Loali, 1996 y\u0131l\u0131nda sava\u015fmak i\u00e7in Kafkasya&#8217;ya gitmi\u015f ve orda kalm\u0131\u015f. Bu haberde \u0130stanbul&#8217;u bombalayan teroristlerin \u00c7e\u00e7enya&#8217;yla ilgisi konusu nedeniyle kendisiyle r\u00f6portaj yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Loali&#8217;de \u00c7e\u00e7enya&#8217;n\u0131n bir ba\u015fka profilini \u00e7\u0131karm\u0131\u015f. \u015eunu da belirtmekte yarar var; Rusya i\u00e7inde masum insanlar\u0131 \u00f6ld\u00fcren canl\u0131 bombac\u0131lar\u0131n \u00c7e\u00e7en halk\u0131yla hi\u00e7bir ilgisi yok. Kim olduklar\u0131 malumunuzdur.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sayin circassiancanada y\u00f6neticileri; yukarida Haftanin Yorumu b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcmden alinma kisa bir paragraf, ve bu paragrafta Cecen aslili Loali ile yapilan bir r\u00f6portajdan bahsediliyor. Simdi size soruyorum kimdir bu Loali ve adi gecen gazete bu kisi ile bu r\u00f6portaji ne zaman yapmis ve hangi tarihte yayinlamis?\u00a0 Pes dogrusu olurda bu kadar olur&#8230;..<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Ad\u0131: yok<br \/>\ne-mail adresi: yok<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Okuyucular\u0131m\u0131zdan yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z tarih hatas\u0131 i\u00e7in \u00f6z\u00fcr dileriz. Bize mail atan okuyucumuz ele\u015ftirisinde yanl\u0131\u015f y\u00f6ne gitmi\u015f. Biz Gazetenin ad\u0131n\u0131 ve tarihini yazd\u0131k. Hatta kendisinin bize g\u00f6nderdi\u011fi mailde bile gazete ad\u0131 ve tarihi var. Burada yaln\u0131z bir tarih hatas\u0131 var.\u00a0 Haber VATAN GAZETES\u0130&#8217;nde 25 KASIM 2003 tarihinde yay\u0131nlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Gazete haberin linkini vermiyor ama <strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatanim.com.tr\/\"> http:\/\/www.vatanim.com.tr\/<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0 adresine girer 25 Kas\u0131m 2003 tarihli n\u00fcshas\u0131na bakarsan\u0131z G\u00dcNDEM ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 alt\u0131nda 4.haber olarak g\u00f6rebilirsiniz. Haber ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131: \u00c7E\u00c7ENLER S\u0130YASAL \u0130SLAMCILARI SEVMEZ<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/cc-turkiye\/yorum\/kuban\/fotolar\/vatan.jpg\" width=\"248\" height=\"115\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p>e-mail g\u00f6nderen okuyucumuz e\u011fer arzu ederde mail adresini yollarsa, &#8220;Pes do\u011frusu olurda bu kadar olur&#8221;un yan\u0131t\u0131n\u0131 da verebiliriz.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">SonS\u00f6z<\/span><br \/>\n<\/strong><strong> \u00c7erkes, yerde g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc \u00e7\u00f6p\u00fc al\u0131p \u00e7\u00f6pkutusuna atand\u0131r. 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