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Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong><\/p>\n \u201cDemokrat G\u00fcrc\u00fcler Platformu\u201dndan Nevzat Kaya\u2019n\u0131n Laz ayd\u0131n\u0131 Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 r\u00f6portaj 13 VIII 2011 tarihinde \u201cG\u00fcrc\u00fc K\u00fclt\u00fcr Merkezi\u201dnin internet sitesinde de yay\u0131nland\u0131. R\u00f6portaj bir\u00e7ok a\u00e7\u0131dan ilgin\u00e7 ve tart\u0131\u015fmaya de\u011fer.\u00a0 Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m, baz\u0131 Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 ile kendisi aras\u0131nda, on sekiz y\u0131ld\u0131r i\u00e7ten i\u00e7e ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ancak ayr\u0131nt\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 bilemedi\u011fimiz sebeplerle hep g\u00f6rmemezlikten geldi\u011fi ve \u00e7\u00f6zmekten de ka\u00e7\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131 anla\u015f\u0131lan s\u00fcrt\u00fc\u015fmeleri art\u0131k kendince a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa vurmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. \u00c7e\u015fitli iddialarda bulunuyor. Baz\u0131 s\u00f6ylediklerinin yeni tart\u0131\u015fmalar ba\u015flataca\u011f\u0131na ku\u015fku yok. Madem taa \u201cOgni K\u00fclt\u00fcr Dergisi\u201d d\u00f6nemine ili\u015fkin bu kadar cidd\u00ee konularda bilgi sahibiydi de neden bug\u00fcne kadar sustu?! Susmakla da kalmay\u0131p \u015fimdi su\u00e7lad\u0131\u011f\u0131 Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131yla bug\u00fcne kadar ili\u015fkisini neden s\u00fcrd\u00fcrd\u00fc?! Bununla da kalmay\u0131p neden onlarla beraber ortak \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar yapt\u0131?! On sekiz y\u0131l \u00f6ncesine ili\u015fkin hesaplar\u0131 neden \u015fimdi g\u00fcndeme getirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor?! R\u00f6portajda s\u00f6yledi\u011fi baz\u0131 konularda benim de kendisine baz\u0131 ele\u015ftirilerim ve sorular\u0131m var. R\u00f6portaj\u0131 konusundaki d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerimi ve sorular\u0131m\u0131 kendisine e-posta kanal\u0131yla hemen g\u00f6nderdim.<\/p>\n \u201cOgni K\u00fclt\u00fcr Dergisi\u201d d\u00f6nemine ili\u015fkin, baz\u0131 Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 hakk\u0131nda iddialar\u0131 olan yaln\u0131zca Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m de\u011fil. Bir ba\u015fka Laz ayd\u0131n\u0131 olan Mehmedali Bar\u0131\u015f Be\u015fli\u2019nin de di\u011fer baz\u0131 Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 hakk\u0131nda yine ayn\u0131 d\u00f6neme ili\u015fkin iddialar\u0131 var. Mehmedali Bar\u0131\u015f Be\u015fli, bu iddialar\u0131n\u0131 1999\u2019da \u201c\u00dctopia- Mevsimlik Hayat Bilgisi Kitab\u0131\u201dn\u0131n 6. say\u0131s\u0131na yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201cVicdanen Malul Bir Devir Bu Devir\u201d ve 2000\u2019de de \u201cMjora- Lazepe\u015fi Nena\u201d adl\u0131 derginin 1. say\u0131s\u0131na yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201cTarihe Kar\u015f\u0131 K\u0131sa Bir Tarih\u201d ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 makalesinde dile getirmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n 18 XI 2006 tarihinde lazuri.com\u2019da yay\u0131nlanan \u201cSanat\u00e7\u0131 eti\u011fi ve Birol Topalo\u011flu\u201d ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 makale de ba\u015fka bir Laz ayd\u0131n\u0131 hakk\u0131nda iddialarda bulunuyor.<\/p>\n Selma Ko\u00e7iva da lazebura.net\u2019te 24 XI 2006 tarihinde yay\u0131nlanan\u00a0 \u201cLaz K\u00fclt\u00fcr Hareketinde Yol Ayr\u0131m\u0131\u2026 \u0130smail Avc\u0131 (Bucakli\u015fi) Ne yapmak \u0130stiyor?\u201d \u00a0ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 makalesinde bir Laz ayd\u0131n\u0131 hakk\u0131nda iddialarda bulunuyor.<\/p>\n Mehmedali\u00a0 Bar\u0131\u015f Be\u015fli, \u00d6zcan Sapan, \u0130smail Avc\u0131 imzas\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yan ve 23 XII 2006 tarihinde lazuri.com\u2019da yay\u0131nlanan \u201cZorunlu Bir \u201cYol Ayr\u0131m\u0131\u201d Hikayesi veya Bir Bilgilendirme Meselesi\u201d ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 makalede yine baz\u0131 ba\u015fka \u00a0Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 hakk\u0131nda iddialarda bulunuyor.<\/p>\n \u0130smail Avc\u0131, May\u0131s 2010\u2019te payla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir e-posta ile ayn\u0131 dernek i\u00e7inde bulundu\u011fu baz\u0131 Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131 su\u00e7luyor ve o dernekten ayr\u0131l\u0131yor.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Burada amac\u0131m, yukar\u0131da k\u0131saca bilgi verdi\u011fim r\u00f6portaj, e-posta veya makalelerdeki iddialar\u0131 irdelemek de\u011fil. Bir noktaya dikkat \u00e7ekmek istiyorum: Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 \u015fu ya da bu sebeple birbirleriyle ne de \u00e7ok sorunlar ya\u015f\u0131yorlar, de\u011fil mi?! Enerjilerini birle\u015ftirip birlikte hareket edip kolektif \u00a0kimlik m\u00fccadelesi vermek yerine\u00a0 adete birbirlerinin g\u00f6zlerini oymaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorlar. Burada tek tek olaylar\u0131n \u00fczerinde durmak, su\u00e7lu aramak ve ne yap\u0131lmamas\u0131 gerekti\u011fi konusunda fikir ortaya koymak istemiyorum. Ne yap\u0131lmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fine dikkat \u00e7ekmek istiyorum.<\/p>\n Lazca, atalar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n dilidir. Bizim \u201canadilimiz\u201ddir; ruh\u00ee \u015fekillenmemizdir; kimli\u011fimizdir. Lazca, binlerce y\u0131ll\u0131k \u00fcretim, m\u00fclkiyet ve payla\u015f\u0131m ili\u015fkileri i\u00e7inde do\u011fdu; geli\u015fti; bizlere ula\u015ft\u0131.<\/p>\n G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde kapitalizm, elinin alt\u0131nda tuttu\u011fu her \u00e7e\u015fit kitle ileti\u015fim ara\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131 ac\u0131mas\u0131zca kullan\u0131yor; insanlar\u0131 \u00e7evresine yabanc\u0131la\u015ft\u0131ran, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeyen, duyars\u0131z, hareketsiz, obez, hastal\u0131kl\u0131 fakat yaln\u0131zca t\u00fcketen zavall\u0131 yarat\u0131klar haline getirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Kapitalizmin en ince h\u00fccrelerimizi bile ele ge\u00e7irdi\u011fi bir durumda d\u00fcnya tek pazar olacak. Tek dil olacak. Tek k\u00fclt\u00fcr, \u00e7\u0131lg\u0131nca t\u00fcketme ve do\u011fay\u0131 yok etme k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc olacak. Kapitalizm; Lazcan\u0131n da, Laz kimli\u011finin de d\u00fc\u015fman\u0131d\u0131r. Lazca da, Laz kimli\u011fi de, Laz kimli\u011finin can \u00e7eki\u015fti\u011fi co\u011frafyan\u0131n do\u011fas\u0131 da kapitalizmin hedefindedir.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Kimlik m\u00fccadelesi; kapitalizme, emperyalizme kar\u015f\u0131 dik bir duru\u015fu gerektirir. Kimlik m\u00fccadelesi, emperyalizmin sald\u0131r\u0131s\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 hem \u00fclkemizin di\u011fer kimlikleriyle hem de kom\u015fu \u00fclkelerin halklar\u0131yla emekda\u015fl\u0131k ortak paydas\u0131nda anti- emperyalist beraber bir duru\u015f ve\u00a0 m\u00fccadeleyi de gerektiriyor.<\/p>\n \u0130\u015fte bu anlamda; ABD emperyalizminin, AB emperyalizminin ortak vatan\u0131m\u0131z \u00fczerinde gizli ve a\u00e7\u0131k k\u00fclt\u00fcrel, siyas\u00ee, vb. kurumlar\u0131yla, bizi \u00e7eli\u015fkili davranmaya y\u00f6neltecek her t\u00fcrl\u00fc ili\u015fkiyi reddetmek zorunday\u0131z. Bug\u00fcne kadar kimli\u011fimizi t\u00f6rp\u00fcleyen, yok etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan resm\u00ee ideoloji ve resm\u00ee tarih tezlerinin uygulay\u0131c\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n arkas\u0131nda kapitalizmin ve emperyalizmin bulundu\u011funu g\u00f6rmemezlikten gelip, onlarla i\u015fbirli\u011fine giremeyiz. AB ve ABD emperyalistlerinin kurumlar\u0131yla ili\u015fkiye girmek ve onlardan medet ummak, fonlar\u0131ndan faydalanmak kimli\u011fimize vuraca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z en b\u00fcy\u00fck darbedir.<\/p>\n Atalar\u0131m\u0131zdan bize miras kalan Laz kimli\u011fini \u00e7ocuklar\u0131m\u0131za kurumsalla\u015ft\u0131rarak aktarma m\u00fccadelesini y\u00fcr\u00fctmek \u00fczere; yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n fark\u0131nda olan b\u00fct\u00fcn samimi Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131n anti-emperyalist, anti-kapitalist bir platform olu\u015fturmas\u0131 gerekmektedir.<\/p>\n D\u00fcnya, i\u00e7inde ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z b\u00f6lge ve T\u00fcrkiye yeniden \u015fekilleniyor. \u00d6n\u00fcm\u00fczdeki g\u00fcnlerde yeni anayasa \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 ba\u015flayacak. Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 b\u00fct\u00fcn bu ve buna benzer olay, olgu ve s\u00fcre\u00e7leri de\u011ferlendirmek ve Laz kimli\u011finin yasalar ve anayasada g\u00fcvence alt\u0131na al\u0131nmas\u0131 i\u00e7in ortak g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce ve \u00f6nerilerini a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a ortaya koymak zorundad\u0131rlar. Bu yap\u0131lmazsa Laz kimli\u011fini, bug\u00fcne kadar oldu\u011fu gibi bundan sonra da hi\u00e7bir kurumun ciddiye almas\u0131 s\u00f6z konusu olamayacakt\u0131r. B\u00f6yle bir durumda, Laz kimli\u011fi ancak t\u00e2bi ve y\u00f6nlendirilen \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalara payanda olarak kullan\u0131lmaktan \u00f6te bir i\u015fleve sahip olamayacakt\u0131r. Bu kabul edilebilir bir durum de\u011fil.<\/p>\n Kendilerine Laz ayd\u0131n\u0131 diyenlerin, bug\u00fcne kadar yapt\u0131klar\u0131 ve s\u00f6ylediklerini d\u00fcr\u00fcst\u00e7e g\u00f6zden ge\u00e7irmeleri gereklidir. \u00d6ncelikle de emperyalist kurulu\u015flara angaje olarak, onlardan \u00a0al\u0131nan fonlarla kimlik m\u00fccadelesi verilemeyece\u011fine, bunun hem Laz kimli\u011fine hem de i\u00e7inde ya\u015fanan ve emekda\u015fl\u0131kla olu\u015fturulan ortak vatan duygusuna taban tabana z\u0131t oldu\u011funa inananlar\u0131n bir araya gelmesi ve m\u00fccadele y\u00fcr\u00fctmeleri gerekmektedir.<\/p>\n Kimlik m\u00fccadelesinin ne oldu\u011fu a\u00e7\u0131k bir \u015fekilde tan\u0131mlanmal\u0131d\u0131r. Yaln\u0131zca gastronomik, folklorik, akademik ve nostaljik \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n tek ba\u015f\u0131na anlaml\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fclmelidir. Bu noktadan hareketle Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 kendilerini tan\u0131mlamal\u0131d\u0131r. Hasan Helimi\u015fi, K\u00e2z\u0131m Koyuncu gibi \u015fimdi aram\u0131zda olmayan tan\u0131nm\u0131\u015f kimi Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131n arkas\u0131na s\u0131\u011f\u0131narak, onlar\u0131n g\u00f6lgesinde baz\u0131 ki\u015filerin kendilerine yer a\u00e7maya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 ve b\u00f6ylelikle kendi namlar\u0131n\u0131n y\u00fcr\u00fcmesi i\u00e7in yapt\u0131klar\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar da tek ba\u015f\u0131na kimlik m\u00fccadelesi de\u011fildir.<\/p>\n Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131; yaln\u0131zca ba\u015fkalar\u0131na, yaln\u0131zca ba\u015fkalar\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131na destek veriyormu\u015f gibi yaparak da kolektif kimliklerini ya\u015fat\u0131yor olamazlar.<\/p>\n Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131; 31 V 2011 tarihinde Hopa\u2019da ya\u015fanan trajik olaylar\u0131 nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyor? \u00c7aydaki s\u00f6m\u00fcr\u00fc ve \u00e7ay politikalar\u0131 konusunda ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorlar? Sarp S\u0131n\u0131r Kap\u0131s\u0131\u2019ndan pasaportsuz gidi\u015f- geli\u015fler konusunu nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorlar? T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de \u00a0ya\u015fanan olaylara, Somali\u2019de ya\u015fanan olaylara yakla\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131 \u015fekilde yakla\u015fmay\u0131 m\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorlar? Laz K\u00fclt\u00fcrel Hareketi Nedir? Kimlik M\u00fccadelesi nedir? Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131, kendileriyle ilgili olay, olgu ve s\u00fcre\u00e7lerin nesnesi mi, \u00f6znesi mi olacaklar?<\/p>\n D\u00fcnya ve Kafkasya\u2019da \u00f6nemli geli\u015fmeler ya\u015fand\u0131. Gidi\u015fat daha da \u00f6nemli geli\u015fmelerin ya\u015fanaca\u011f\u0131na i\u015faret ediyor. Bu konuda; olay, olgu ve s\u00fcre\u00e7leri Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 iyi okumak zorundad\u0131r. Abhazya\u2019da 1992\u2019de ya\u015fananlar\u0131 yeniden de\u011ferlendirmeliyiz. Ortaya \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131 muhtemel geli\u015fmelere kafa yormal\u0131y\u0131z.<\/p>\n 2008\u2019de \u201cG\u00fcrcistan ve Rusya Federasyonu\u00a0 aras\u0131ndaki\u201d sava\u015f hali ve ard\u0131ndaki geli\u015fmeleri nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyoruz?! Bu geli\u015fmeler Laz kimli\u011fine ne katacak, ne g\u00f6t\u00fcrecek?! Dilsel ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrel akrabal\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n bulundu\u011fu Kafkasya\u2019daki geli\u015fmelere s\u0131rt\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 d\u00f6nerek nereye varabiliriz?!<\/p>\n 2008\u2019den sonra her y\u0131l T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de yap\u0131lan Rusya protestolar\u0131na nas\u0131l bir tav\u0131r alaca\u011f\u0131z?! Bu protestolar\u0131, fikri derinlikten yoksun, ama kameralar \u00f6n\u00fcnde boy g\u00f6stererek bu i\u015flerden nemalanmak isteyenlerin insaf\u0131na m\u0131 b\u0131rakaca\u011f\u0131z?!<\/p>\n Evet; bug\u00fcnk\u00fc zaman diliminde ve bu d\u00fcnyada ya\u015f\u0131yoruz. Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131n; d\u00fcnyay\u0131, sosyal geli\u015fmeleri ve b\u00fct\u00fcn olarak bunlarla ba\u011flant\u0131l\u0131 kendi kimliklerini ve geleceklerini de\u011ferlendirmeleri ve ortak bir duru\u015fla e\u011filmeden, b\u00fck\u00fclmeden bir m\u00fccadele vermeleri gerekti\u011fi a\u00e7\u0131kt\u0131r.<\/p>\n G\u00f6r\u00fcnen o ki, b\u00f6yle giderse, Laz kimli\u011fi gelece\u011fe ta\u015f\u0131namayacakt\u0131r. \u0130\u015fte b\u00fct\u00fcn bu sebeplerle, su gibi ak\u0131p giden zaman\u0131n fark\u0131na var\u0131p ki\u015fisel h\u0131rslar ve fantazilerle de\u011fil,\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin bir ayd\u0131n\u0131n\u0131n sahip olmas\u0131 gereken bir duyarl\u0131l\u0131kla hareket etmek zorunday\u0131z.<\/p>\n Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 zaman\u0131nda halledilmemi\u015f aralar\u0131ndaki hesaplar\u0131 bir kenara b\u0131rak\u0131p gelece\u011fe kendilerini kolektif bir kimlikle ta\u015f\u0131yacak cidd\u00ee projeleri, hi\u00e7 kimseyi d\u0131\u015flamadan hep birlikte \u00fcretmek i\u00e7in \u015fimdi ta\u015f\u0131n alt\u0131na ellerini koymalar\u0131 gerekti\u011finin fark\u0131na varmal\u0131d\u0131rlar. (21 VIII 2011)<\/p>\n (\u00d6nerilen okumalar<\/strong>: \u201cAhmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m\u2019\u0131n Vizyonu var m\u0131yd\u0131?\u201d, 27 X 2006, xvalamgeri.blogspot.com; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201c\u00c7erkes, G\u00fcrc\u00fc ve Laz Ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n \u0130rad\u00ee Beraberli\u011fi (1 May\u0131s 2012 \u0130stanbul \u0130zlenimleri)\u201d, 2 V 2012, circassiancenter.com; \u201cDemokratik G\u00fcrc\u00fcler Platformu olarak Laz ayd\u0131n\u0131 Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z r\u00f6portaj\u201d,\u00a0 12 VIII 2011, groups.google.com\/g\/gurcu_kultur_merkez; Ha\u015fim Akman: \u201cLaz Enstit\u00fcs\u00fc Kuruluyor\u201d, A Akt\u00fcel Dergisi, say\u0131 66, 8- 14 Ekim 1992\/ 13 VII 2017, sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; \u201c\u0130\u00e7indekilerle Ogni K\u00fclt\u00fcr Dergisi\u2019\u00a0 (1993-1994)\u201d, 12 XI 2020, sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; \u201cLaz Ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131n giri\u015fimine bas\u0131ndan tepkiler\u201d, 14 V 2022, sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; \u201cLaz Ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 Platformu Olu\u015fturma Toplant\u0131lar\u0131ndaki Konu\u015fmalar\u0131m\u201d, sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr\/\u00a0 Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cLaz Ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 ve Sorumluluk, 1. Bask\u0131, Sorun Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, \u0130stanbul, 2011;\u201cLaz Enstit\u00fcs\u00fc\u201d toplant\u0131s\u0131nda s\u00f6ylediklerim, g\u00f6zlem, ele\u015ftiri ve \u00f6nerilerim\u201d, 22 XII 2012, , yusufbulut.com\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; \u201cLaz Enstit\u00fcs\u00fc denince (Alg\u0131lad\u0131klar\u0131m- Beklentilerim),15 II 2013, yusufbulut.com\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; \u201cLazlara ili\u015fkin iki kitab\u0131n hik\u00e2yesi ve tan\u0131kl\u0131klar\u0131m- An\u0131lar\u0131m\u201d, 14 II 2013, yusufbulut.com\/ circassiancenter.com.tr\/ gurcuhaber.com; \u201cLazuri.com\u2019dan A\u00e7\u0131klama\u201d, 4 XII 2006, lazuri.com; Memedali B. Be\u015fli, \u201cVicdanen malul bir devir bu devir\u201d, \u00dctopya Mevsimlik Hayat Bilgisi Kitab\u0131 6, Piya- Zed Yay\u0131n, \u0130stanbul, Ocak 1999; Mehmedali Bar\u0131\u015f Be\u015fli: \u201cTarihe Kar\u015f\u0131 K\u0131sa Bir Tarih\u201d, Mjora\/ Lazepe\u015fi Nena, say\u0131: 1, Ocak 2000, \u00c7iviyaz\u0131lar\u0131 Yay\u0131nevi; \u201cOgni\u201d ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z oldu mu?!\u201d, 12 IX 2013, yusufbulut.com\/ sonhaber.ch; \u201cSanat\u00e7\u0131 eti\u011fi ve Birol Topalo\u011flu\u201d, 18 XI 2006, lazuri.com; \u201cZorunlu Bir \u201cYol Ayr\u0131m\u0131\u201d Hikayesi veya Bir Bilgilendirme Meselesi\u201d, 23 XII 2006, lazuri.com)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Ali İhsan Aksamaz “Demokrat Gürcüler Platformu”ndan Nevzat Kaya’nın Laz aydını Ahmet Hulusi Kırım ile yaptığı röportaj 13 VIII 2011 tarihinde “Gürcü Kültür Merkezi”nin internet sitesinde de yayınlandı. Röportaj birçok açıdan ilginç ve tartışmaya değer. Ahmet Hulusi Kırım, bazı Laz aydınları ile kendisi arasında, on sekiz yıldır içten içe yaşadığı ancak ayrıntısını bilemediğimiz sebeplerle hep görmemezlikten 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