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Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n [\u00d6n a\u00e7\u0131klama<\/strong>: Bug\u00fcnk\u00fc misafirim \u0130nci Derya Turna. \u0130nci Derya Turna, \u00fclkemizin \u015fairlerinden. \u0130nci Derya Turna ile bir s\u00f6yle\u015fi yapt\u0131m.\u00a0\u00a0Bu, kendisiyle ikinci s\u00f6yle\u015fim. \u00c7ocuklu\u011funun eski toplumsal geleneklerinden ve yeni \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131ndan konu\u015ftuk. Kendisi a\u011f\u0131r hasta olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen, sorular\u0131m\u0131 cevaplad\u0131. Kendisine acil \u015fifalar dilerim. [And\u011faneri musafiri \u00e7kimi \u0130nci Derya Turna ren. \u0130nci Derya Turna dobadona \u00e7kini\u015fi \u015fairepe\u015fen arte\u011fi ren. Aya ren mu\u015fi k\u0306ala majurani int\u0306erviu \u00e7kimi. Beroba mu\u015fi\u015fi mcve\u015fi lamtinaluri adetepe\u015fen do a\u011fne Turkuli- Lazuri \u015fiirepe mu\u015fi\u015fen b\u011far\u011falit. A\u0292\u0306i monk\u0306a xarmeli ren mara xoloti nena gemiktiru. Allahik \u015fifa me\u00e7as!]<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong>: \u00d6nce \u00e7ocuklu\u011funuzun Ramazanlar\u0131ndan bahsedin bize! O zamanlar Arhavi\u2019de Ramazan adetleri nas\u0131ld\u0131? Siz \u00e7ocuklar oru\u00e7 tutmaya hevesli miydiniz?\u00a0\u00a0Anne ve baban\u0131z sizi sahura kald\u0131r\u0131yor muydu? Sahurda hangi yemekleri yiyordunuz?\u00a0\u00a0Sofrada \u00e7o\u011funlukla hangi yemekler oluyordu? \u0130ftar ve sahur sofralar\u0131nda hangi farkl\u0131 yemekler oluyordu? Ramazan gelenekleri siz \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n ho\u015funa gidiyor muydu? Siz de, anne ve baban\u0131zla Teravi Namaz\u0131na gidiyor muydunuz? Biliyorum, o zaman Arhavi \u015fimdiki gibi de\u011fildi, kim bilir belki de elektrik bile yoktu! \u00c7ocuklu\u011funuzun Ramazanlar\u0131ndan ho\u015f, ilgin\u00e7 an\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131z var m\u0131? [\u0130pti beroba tkvani\u015fi Remazenepe\u015fen molami\u015finit, mu iqven! Emindros mu\u00e7\u0306o iqvet\u0306u Remazani\u015fi adetepe Arkabis? Tkvan berepes op\u0306i\u00e7vu\u015fa toli gi\u011fut\u0306esi? Op\u0306i\u00e7vu\u015fa xavesoba gi\u011fut\u0306esi berepes?\u00a0\u00a0Nana do babak goselat\u0306esi moselas? Moselas mu gyarepe imxort\u0306it?\u00a0\u00a0Didopeten mu o\u00e7\u0306k\u0306omalepe iqvet\u0306u sofras?\u00a0\u00a0Remazeni \u015feni iftari do mosela\u015fi sofrapes mu go\u00e7kvaneri o\u00e7\u0306k\u0306omalepe iqvet\u0306u, mu gyarepe iqvet\u0306u? Tkvan berepes Remazeni\u015fi adetepe k\u0306ai ga\u0292\u0306onet\u0306esi? Tkvanti nana- baba k\u0306ala teravi\u015fi nemazi\u015fa ulut\u0306iti? Xo\u015f emindros Arkabi a\u0292\u0306ineri steri va rt\u0306u, mis u\u00e7kin, elekt\u0306ri\u011fiti va rt\u0306u, mu mi\u00e7kin! Beroba tkvani\u015fi Remazenepe\u015fen nostoneri, on\u00e7\u0306eloni gono\u015finepe gi\u011funani?]<\/p>\n \u0130nci Derya Turna<\/strong>: \u00c7ocuklu\u011fumda ramazan adetleri \u00e7ok g\u00fczeldi. Ben daha ilkokula giderken oru\u00e7 tutmak isterdim. Annem, babam, babaannemle sahura kalkard\u0131m. Sahurda mutlaka etli bir \u00e7orba, pilav, yo\u011furt, burma tatl\u0131s\u0131 ya da Laz b\u00f6re\u011fi, ha\u015flanm\u0131\u015f yumurta, bal, peynir, s\u00fct olurdu. Bazen konuk olursa bunlara ba\u015fka yemekler de eklenirdi. \u0130ftarda ise, bol etli sebzeli g\u00fcve\u00e7 olurdu. Pilav her g\u00fcn vard\u0131. Bol f\u0131nd\u0131kl\u0131 burma tatl\u0131s\u0131. Lahana sarmas\u0131, ya da biber patl\u0131can dolmas\u0131, s\u00fctla\u00e7. \u00c7ocuklu\u011fumda pilav\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcne s\u00fctla\u00e7 konulur \u00f6yle yenilirdi. Arhavi s\u00fctlac\u0131 \u015fekerli de\u011fil, tuzlu olurdu. \u00c7ok lezzetliydi. Bazen ben \u015fimdi bile yap\u0131yorum bunu; eski gelene\u011fimiz. Teravi Namaz\u0131na babam giderdi. Annem, babaannem ve ben evde namaz k\u0131lar, Yasin okurduk. \u0130lgin\u00e7 bir an\u0131m da var. D\u00f6rd\u00fcnc\u00fc s\u0131n\u0131fa giderken bir gece unutup sahura kald\u0131rmad\u0131lar beni; \u00e7ok \u00fcz\u00fcld\u00fcm sabah uyan\u0131nca. Herkes uyurken gizlice \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131m evden. Uyand\u0131klar\u0131nda beni yata\u011f\u0131mda bulamad\u0131lar. Evin hi\u00e7 bir odas\u0131nda de\u011fildim. Evimizin alt kat\u0131nda, kullan\u0131lmayan e\u015fyalar\u0131n arkas\u0131nda gizlenmi\u015ftim. Pani\u011fe kap\u0131l\u0131p beni her yerde arad\u0131lar. Durmadan y\u00fcksek sesle \u201c\u0130nci\u201d diye sesleniyorlard\u0131. Babaannemin ac\u0131kl\u0131 \u00e7\u0131\u011fl\u0131klar\u0131na daha fazla dayanamay\u0131p ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131m.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong>: \u00c7ocuklu\u011funuzdaki Bayram adetleri nas\u0131ld\u0131? Anne- baba ve nine-dedeniz size yeni ayakkab\u0131, elbise al\u0131yor muydu? Bayram g\u00fcn\u00fc kom\u015fu ve akrabalar\u0131 ziyaret ediyor muydunuz? Kom\u015fu ve akrabalar\u0131 ziyarete arkada\u015flar\u0131n\u0131zla beraber veya tek ba\u015f\u0131n\u0131za gidiyordunuz, \u00f6yle mi? Kom\u015fu ve akrabalar\u0131n ellerini \u00f6p\u00fcyor muydunuz? Onlar da size bah\u015fi\u015f veriyor muydu? Para veriyorlar m\u0131yd\u0131, ne bileyim, f\u0131nd\u0131k, ceviz, kuru \u00fcz\u00fcm veriyorlar m\u0131yd\u0131?!\u00a0\u00a0F\u0131nd\u0131k, ceviz, kuru \u00fcz\u00fcm o zamanlar bayram bah\u015fi\u015fi say\u0131l\u0131yor muydu? Tabii para da veriyorlard\u0131. O parayla neler yap\u0131yordunuz? Arhavi\u2019de sinema var m\u0131yd\u0131?\u00a0\u00a0Sinemaya gidiyor muydunuz? Arhavi\u2019de bayram panay\u0131r\u0131 oluyor muydu? Arhavi\u2019de bayram g\u00fcnlerinde ne gibi \u015fenlikler yap\u0131yorlard\u0131? [Bayrami\u015fi adetepe mu\u00e7\u0306o iqvet\u0306u beroba tkvanis? Nana- baba do nandidi- p\u0306ap\u0306ulik tkvan a\u011fne k\u0306u\u00e7xe\u015f modvalu, dolokunu yegi\u00e7\u0306opupt\u0306esi? Man\u017eagerepe\u015fi, mzaxalepe\u015fi mok\u0306itxu\u015fa ulut\u0306iti bayrami\u015fi nd\u011falepes?\u00a0\u00a0Man\u017eagerepe\u015fi, mzaxalepe\u015fi mok\u0306itxu\u015fa manebrape k\u0306ala artot ulut\u0306iti vana tito- tito ulut\u0306iti?! Man\u017eagerepes, mzaxalepes xes geacunt\u0306iti? Edo entepek mu bax\u00e7i\u015fi mek\u00e7apt\u0306es. Para mek\u00e7apt\u0306esi, mu mi\u00e7kin, txiri, ne\u017ei, xomula qur\u017eeni mek\u00e7apt\u0306esi?! Txiri, ne\u017ei, xomula qur\u017eeniti bayrami\u015fi bax\u00e7i\u015fi i\u015finet\u0306ui emindoras? Parati mek\u00e7apt\u0306es elbet. Edo eya paraten muepe ikipt\u0306it? Arkabis sinema\u015fi bina geladgit\u0306ui?\u00a0\u00a0Sinama\u015fa ulut\u0306iti? Arkabis bayrami\u015fi\u00a0p\u0306anayiri iqvet\u0306ui?\u00a0\u00a0Bayrami\u015fi nd\u011fapes \u015fenlu\u011fi steri mutupe ikipt\u0306esi Arkabis?]<\/p>\n \u0130nci Derya Turna<\/strong>: \u00c7ocuklu\u011fumun bayramlar\u0131 \u00e7ok muhte\u015femdi. Uzak akrabalar\u0131m\u0131z \u00e7ocuklar\u0131yla gelirlerdi. Sevgi, huzur, sayg\u0131yla g\u00fczel bayramlar ya\u015fard\u0131k. Ailemiz yeni giysiler, \u00e7oraplar, ayakkab\u0131lar al\u0131rlard\u0131. Arife gecesi yeni giysilerimizi ba\u015fucumuza koyar, \u00f6yle uyurduk. Sonra biz de kom\u015fu ve akrabalara bayram ziyaretine giderdik. Biz \u00e7ocuklara, \u015feker, evde yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f kurabiye, metal paralar verirlerdi. B\u00fcy\u00fcklerimizin ellerini \u00f6perdik. Onlar da bizim yanaklar\u0131m\u0131zdan \u00f6perlerdi. Bize verilen bayram paralar\u0131 ile sinemaya giderdik. En b\u00fcy\u00fck e\u011flencemiz buydu; yeni filmler izlemek. Erkek \u00e7ocuklar, mantar tabancas\u0131 ve plastik top al\u0131rlard\u0131. Biz k\u0131zlar da yeni \u00e7\u0131kan plastik bebeklerden al\u0131rd\u0131k. Ya da imitasyon kolye, y\u00fcz\u00fck, bilezik al\u0131rd\u0131k. Bayramlarda uzak illerden gelip motosiklet g\u00f6sterisi yap\u0131lan y\u00fcksek yuvarlak platform kurulurdu. O motor g\u00f6sterisini heyecanla izlerdik. Adam oradan d\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc d\u00fc\u015fecek diye y\u00fcre\u011fimiz a\u011fz\u0131m\u0131za gelirdi.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong>: \u00c7ocuklu\u011funuzun Arhavi\u2019sinde \u00e7ay tar\u0131m\u0131n\u0131n durumu neydi? Arhavi ve k\u00f6ylerindeki hayat birbirine benziyor muydu? Arhavi\u2019de hayat nas\u0131ld\u0131? K\u00f6y hayat\u0131 nas\u0131ld\u0131? K\u00f6y halk\u0131 nas\u0131l ge\u00e7iniyordu? Neleri ekiyorlard\u0131? Arhavi halk\u0131 neyle ge\u00e7iniyordu? Ne i\u015fler yap\u0131yorlard\u0131? Nerede \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorlard\u0131? Hangi i\u015flerden para kazan\u0131yorlard\u0131? Ne sat\u0131yorlard\u0131, ne sat\u0131n al\u0131yorlard\u0131? Hangi destanlar\u0131, \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlard\u0131? Arhavi\u2019nin, k\u00f6ylerin durumu nas\u0131ld\u0131? Arhavi ve k\u00f6ylerinde \u00e7ok eski ibadethanelerin kal\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 var m\u0131yd\u0131? Arhavi\u2019den Ankara\u2019ya, \u0130stanbul\u2019a hangi yol ve vas\u0131tayla gidiyorlard\u0131? [\u00c7ayi\u015fi ziraati mu xalis t\u0306u beroba tkvani\u015fi Arkabis? No\u011fa do oput\u0306epe\u015fi skidala artikartis nungapt\u0306ui? No\u011fa\u015fi skidala mu\u00e7\u0306o rt\u0306u? Oput\u0306epe\u015fi skidala mu\u00e7\u0306o rt\u0306u? Oput\u0306e\u015fi xalk\u0306i muten skidut\u0306u? Muepe orgapt\u0306es? No\u011fa\u015fi xalk\u0306i muten skidut\u0306es? Mu dulyape ikipt\u0306es? So i\u00e7ali\u015fept\u0306es? Namu dulyape\u015fen para mogapt\u0306es? Muepe gama\u00e7apt\u0306es, muepe ye\u00e7\u0306opupt\u0306es? Namu dest\u0306anepe, birabape ibirt\u0306es? Mu xali u\u011fut\u0306u xalk\u0306is, ginon Arkabis, ginon oput\u0306epe Arkabi\u015fi oput\u0306epes? Arkabis do Arkabi\u015fi oput\u0306epes dido mcve oxvamepe\u015fi genomskidepe kortui?\u00a0\u00a0Arkabi\u015fen Ank\u0306ara\u015fa, \u0130st\u0306anboli\u015fa namu gza do vasitaten ulut\u0306es, gignapunani?]<\/p>\n \u0130nci Derya Turna<\/strong>: \u00c7ocuklu\u011fumda annemle babaannem \u00e7ay topluyorlard\u0131. \u00d6nceleri arazimizin bir k\u0131sm\u0131nda \u00e7ay vard\u0131. Sonra topraklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n bir\u00e7o\u011funa \u00e7ay ekildi. Bizler de b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fck\u00e7e \u00e7ay toplamaya ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131k. F\u0131nd\u0131k ve m\u0131s\u0131r \u00fcretimi \u00e7ok azalm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bir\u00e7ok yer \u00e7ayla donat\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u00c7ayla iyi bir kazan\u00e7 elde edilmeye ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. K\u00f6ydeki ve Arhavi’deki erkeklerin \u00e7o\u011fu gurbetten d\u00f6nmeye ba\u015flam\u0131\u015flard\u0131. \u00c7ay y\u0131lda \u00fc\u00e7 d\u00f6rt kez \u00fcr\u00fcn veriyordu. Fabrikalar a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131. B\u00f6lge halk\u0131 orada i\u015fe girdi. Sigorta, maa\u015f ve emekli olma yolu a\u00e7\u0131lm\u0131\u015f oldu b\u00f6ylece. Ya\u015fl\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n s\u00f6yledi\u011fi a\u011f\u0131tlar, destanlar, t\u00fcrk\u00fcler vard\u0131. Bunlar nesilden nesile aktar\u0131l\u0131yordu. Onlar\u0131n bu destanlar\u0131 yan\u0131k yan\u0131k s\u00f6ylerken dinleme olana\u011f\u0131 bulur ve a\u011flard\u0131m. \u00c7ok yoksulluk \u00e7ekmi\u015f, \u00e7ok ac\u0131lar ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f halk\u0131m\u0131n y\u00fcrek iniltileriydi bunlar! \u00c7ocuklu\u011fumda Trabzon’dan u\u00e7ak kalkard\u0131. Ama biletler \u00e7ok y\u00fcksek fiyatl\u0131 oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in pek kimse u\u00e7akla gitmezdi. Otob\u00fcslerle yolculuk yap\u0131l\u0131rd\u0131. Bir g\u00fcn, bir gece s\u00fcren \u00e7ok zorlu yolculuklard\u0131 bunlar.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong>:\u00a0Arhavi\u2019de pangara gelene\u011fi var m\u0131yd\u0131? K\u00f6ylerde, Arhavi\u2019de pangara gelene\u011fi var m\u0131yd\u0131? Meydanda b\u00fcy\u00fck ate\u015f yak\u0131yorlar m\u0131yd\u0131? O ate\u015f \u00fczerinden atl\u0131yorlar m\u0131yd\u0131?\u00a0Bu t\u00fcr gelenekleri duymu\u015flu\u011funuz var m\u0131,\u00a0g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015fl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcz var m\u0131? [Beroba tkvanis namu sterapape istert\u0306it Arkabis? Namu osteralepe gi\u011fut\u0306es? Nana- Nandidi tkvani\u015fi p\u0306aramitepe a\u0292\u0306i kok\u015funani?\u00a0Beroba tkvani\u015fen namu p\u0306aramitepe kok\u015funan a\u0292\u0306i? Mcve\u015furi \u00e7\u0306ink\u0306a\u015fi, germak\u0306o\u00e7i\u015fi p\u0306aramitepe gi\u00e7kinani? Mu p\u0306aramitepes usimint\u0306it nandidis, nanas?]<\/p>\n \u0130nci Derya Turna<\/strong>: Arhavi’de biz pagara ate\u015fi yakard\u0131k. Tarla kaz\u0131lmaya yak\u0131n t\u00fcm m\u0131s\u0131r k\u00f6kleri an\u0131zlar tarlan\u0131n ortas\u0131na y\u0131\u011f\u0131l\u0131r ve yak\u0131l\u0131rd\u0131. \u00c7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck dev ate\u015fler olurdu. Ate\u015f biraz azal\u0131nca \u00fczerinden atlard\u0131k. Bu m\u00fcthi\u015f g\u00fczel bir e\u011flenceydi bizim i\u00e7in. Ama hep b\u00fcy\u00fcklerimizin g\u00f6zetiminde olurduk. Alev ve duman kokulu g\u00fcnler.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong>:\u00a0\u00c7ocuklu\u011funuzda hangi oyunlar\u0131 oynuyordunuz? Hangi oyuncaklar\u0131n\u0131z vard\u0131? Anne ve b\u00fcy\u00fckannenizden \u015fimdi hangi masallar\u0131 hat\u0131rl\u0131yorsunuz?\u00a0Eski cad\u0131, orman adam\u0131, peri masalar\u0131 biliyor musunuz? Ninenizden, annenizden hangi masallar\u0131 dinliyordunuz? [Beroba tkvanis namu sterapape istert\u0306it Arkabis? Namu osteralepe gi\u011fut\u0306es? Nana- Nandidi tkvani\u015fi p\u0306aramitepe a\u0292\u0306i kok\u015funani?\u00a0Beroba tkvani\u015fen namu p\u0306aramitepe kok\u015funan a\u0292\u0306i? Mcve\u015furi \u00e7\u0306ink\u0306a\u015fi, germak\u0306o\u00e7i\u015fi p\u0306aramitepe gi\u00e7kinani? Mu p\u0306aramitepes usimint\u0306it nandidis, nanas?]<\/p>\n \u0130nci Derya Turna<\/strong>: K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fckken oynad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z oyunlar an\u0131msad\u0131\u011f\u0131m kadar; k\u00f6rebe, sek sek, evcilik, tombala, \u00e7ubuk oyunu, \u00e7ember \u00e7evirme, yakar top, istop, \u00e7elik \u00e7omak, dama, be\u015f ta\u015f, saklamba\u00e7, ebe, misket, ko\u015fu yar\u0131\u015fmas\u0131, ip atlama, voleybol, bezirg\u00e2n ba\u015f\u0131, baz\u0131 oynad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z oyunlard\u0131. B\u00fcy\u00fcklerimin Lazca t\u00fcm konu\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 biliyorum. Ama baz\u0131 yabanc\u0131 kelimelerinde i\u00e7ine kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 oluyordu. Peri, cad\u0131 ve da\u011f adam\u0131 masallar\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131rlard\u0131. Biz \u00e7ocuklar \u00e7ok etkilenip korkard\u0131k. Hatta tarlaya girip minik salatal\u0131klar\u0131 kopar\u0131rsak bizi \u01e9un\u01e9ul badi dedikleri \u015eeytanvari birinin ka\u00e7\u0131raca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylerlerdi. Korkumuzdan sebze tarlalar\u0131na giremezdik.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong>:\u00a0Biraz da, l\u00fctfen, bize eski d\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnlerden bahsedin? D\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnler nas\u0131l oluyordu? O zamanlar hangi gelenekler vard\u0131? K\u0131z isteme gelene\u011fi nas\u0131ld\u0131? Geline, damata\u00a0\u00a0hangi hediyeler veriyorlard\u0131? O eski gelenekleri duymu\u015flu\u011funuz var m\u0131, sizin de g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015fl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcz var m\u0131? [Am\u0292ikati \u00e7\u0306andape do dugunepe\u015fen molami\u015finit, mu iqven! \u00c7\u0306andape, dugunepe mu\u00e7\u0306o iqvet\u0306u? Mu adetepe u\u011futes emindros? K\u0306ulani ok\u0306vandu\u015fi adeti mu\u00e7\u0306o iqvet\u0306u? No\u011famisas, nisas, no\u011fames, sicas mu bax\u00e7i\u015fepe nuk\u0306idapt\u0306es, me\u00e7apt\u0306es? Aya\u00a0adetepe\u015fenti\u00a0gignapunani, tkvanti gi\u017eiramunani?]<\/p>\n \u0130nci Derya Turna<\/strong>: Arhavi ve o b\u00f6lgelerde \u00e7ok eskilerde, d\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn-ni\u015fan kemen\u00e7e tulum e\u015fli\u011finde yap\u0131l\u0131rd\u0131. Evde yemekli olurdu. Babam kemen\u00e7e ve akordiyonu ile \u015fenlendirirdi. K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fckl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcmde beni de yan\u0131nda g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcrd\u00fc. Ben kemen\u00e7esini ta\u015f\u0131rd\u0131m, kendisi de akordiyonu. Babam d\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn- ni\u015fan sahiplerinden asla m\u00fczi\u011finin \u00fccretini almazd\u0131. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc hoca olan babas\u0131, dedem para almamas\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemi\u015f. Bedava e\u011flendir onlar\u0131. \u201cM\u00fczi\u011finle sevap kazan\u201d demi\u015f. O y\u00fczden babam hi\u00e7 para almazd\u0131. Ama d\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn sahipleri babama canl\u0131 horoz, kavrulmu\u015f f\u0131nd\u0131k, cevizli sucuk, \u015fekerleme, bir tepsi baklava verirlerdi. Onlar\u0131 kabul ederdi babam. B\u00f6ylece \u00e7ok horozumuz olurdu evimizde. Di\u011fer yiyeceklerden de annem bize pay eder, akraba ve kom\u015fulara da g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcp verirdi. T\u00fcm bunlara ben tan\u0131\u011f\u0131m. Bazen Artvin’e, F\u0131nd\u0131kl\u0131\u2019ya, Arde\u015fen\u2019e, Pazar\u2019a, \u00c7ayeli\u2019ne, Rize\u2019ye de d\u00fc\u011f\u00fcne gitti\u011fi oluyordu. Lazlar\u0131n bir gelene\u011fi olan damad\u0131 ba\u011flamay\u0131 da babam kemen\u00e7esiyle \u00e7ok g\u00fczel yapard\u0131. Bu oyunun 45’lik pla\u011f\u0131 da var babam\u0131n. Her gitti\u011fi yerde babam\u0131 el \u00fcst\u00fcnde tutarlard\u0131. Babama platonik olarak a\u015f\u0131k \u00e7ok bayan oluyordu. Bir ba\u015fka b\u00f6l\u00fcmde onlar\u0131 da anlatmak isterim. \u015eimdi babam\u0131n me\u015fhur damat ba\u011flama s\u00f6zlerini yazmak istiyorum. Lazca olarak s\u00f6ylerdi babam, onu da sonra payla\u015faca\u011f\u0131m. \u015eimdi T\u00fcrk\u00e7esini aktar\u0131yorum. Tabii ki kemen\u00e7e e\u015fli\u011finde oluyordu:<\/p>\n \u201cHey gen\u00e7ler, damad\u0131n senin b\u00f6yle b\u00f6yle ayakta duruyor, Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong>: Biliyorum, T\u00fcrk\u00e7e- Lazca \u015fiirler yaz\u0131yorsunuz. Biraz da yeni T\u00fcrk\u00e7e- Lazca \u015fiirlerinizden de bahsedin bize, olur mu?! \u015eiirleriniz \u00e7o\u011funlukla hangi dergilerde yay\u0131nland\u0131, yay\u0131nlan\u0131yor? [Komi\u00e7kin, tkvan Turkuli- Lazuri \u015fiirepeti\u00a0\u00e7\u0306arupt.\u00a0Am\u0292ikati\u00a0a\u011fneTurkuli -Lazuri\u00a0\u015fiirepe\u00a0tkvani\u015fenti molami\u015finit, iqveni?! \u015eiirepe tkvani didopeten namu dergepes gami\u00e7kvinu, gami\u00e7kvinen?]<\/p>\n \u0130nci Derya Turna<\/strong>: \u00dc\u00e7 kitab\u0131m var; Lazca \u015fiir, T\u00fcrk\u00e7e \u015fiir, bir de T\u00fcrk\u00e7e olarak an\u0131- roman kitaplar\u0131m. Tabii ki her iki dilde de \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131m var, kitapla\u015fmaya haz\u0131rlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m. Son y\u0131llarda sa\u011fl\u0131k sorunlar\u0131 ya\u015famaktay\u0131m. O nedenle biraz ara verdim. Sevgili e\u015fimi yitirince kalp krizi ge\u00e7irdim, kalbime \u00fc\u00e7 tane stent tak\u0131ld\u0131. Bir b\u00f6bre\u011fim t\u00fcm\u00f6rl\u00fcyd\u00fc, al\u0131nd\u0131. \u015eimdi de babam\u0131n ve Kaz\u0131m’\u0131n deyimiyle fiyakal\u0131 bir hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131n a\u015famalar\u0131n\u0131 ya\u015f\u0131yorum. \u015eu an s\u00fcrekli tedavideyim. Lazca \u015fiirlerim Laz dergilerinde ve dil odakl\u0131 dergilerde yay\u0131mland\u0131. Ama T\u00fcrk\u00e7e olarak bir\u00e7ok yay\u0131n organlar\u0131nda \u015fiir ve \u00f6yk\u00fclerim yay\u0131mland\u0131. T\u00fcm dosyalar\u0131m\u0131 elimde ve \u00f6zenle sakl\u0131yorum. \u015eiir ve \u00f6yk\u00fc yar\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131ndan birincilik ve ikincilik olarak bir\u00e7ok \u00f6d\u00fcl ald\u0131m. Onlar benim \u00e7ocuklar\u0131m gibiler. Burada bir tane Lazca \u015fiirimi payla\u015fmak istiyorum. Bunun orijinalli\u011fi bozulmas\u0131n diye T\u00fcrk\u00e7esini yazmad\u0131m. Anlam\u0131 yitti\u011fi i\u00e7in \u00e7evirisini yapmad\u0131m.<\/p>\n \u201cDOPXA\u00c7\u030c\u01e8\u0130\u0164 LA\u017dU\u0164EPE<\/strong><\/p>\n Dopxa\u00e7\u030c\u01e9it\u0306 la\u017eut\u0306epe p\u030ct\u0306axaten iva\u015f\u01e9ule, Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong>: Bu s\u00f6yle\u015fi i\u00e7in size \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. Sizin ba\u015fka s\u00f6yleyecekleriniz varsa, l\u00fctfen onlar\u0131 da s\u00f6yleyin! Sa\u011fl\u0131cakla kal\u0131n! [Am int\u0306erviu \u015feni dido \u015fukuri go\u011fodapt. Tkvan otkvalu\u015fi \u00e7kva mutu gi\u011funanna, entepeti mi\u0292\u0306vit, mu iqven! K\u0306ai guriten vi\u017eirat!]<\/p>\n \u0130nci Derya Turna<\/strong>: Ben te\u015fekk\u00fcr ediyorum bu g\u00fczel s\u00f6yle\u015fiyi yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in. [\u00d6nerilen okumalar<\/strong>: \u201cArhavi Tarihi\u201d, arhavi.bel.tr; Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 K\u00fclt\u00fcr ve Sanat Komisyonu\u201d[Mustafa Kaz\u0131m Y\u00fccel \u00d6zbirinci, \u0130smail Muzaffer \u00d6zbay, Mehmet Ali K\u00f6k, Muhsin Erol, Metin Bilgin], \u201cArhavi A\u011fz\u0131 Lazca Dilbilgisi\u201d, Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 Yay\u0131n\u0131, \u00c7izgi Matbaac\u0131l\u0131k Ltd. \u015eti.,\u00a0\u00a0Ankara, 2006; Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 K\u00fclt\u00fcr ve Sanat Komisyonu\u201d[Mustafa Kaz\u0131m Y\u00fccel \u00d6zbirinci, \u0130smail Muzaffer \u00d6zbay, Mehmet Ali K\u00f6k, Muhsin Erol, Erdin\u00e7 Y\u00fcz\u00fcnc\u00fco\u011flu, Metin Bilgin], \u201cArhavi A\u011fz\u0131 Lazca K\u0131lavuz S\u00f6zl\u00fck\u201d, Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 Yay\u0131n\u0131, \u00c7izgi Matbaac\u0131l\u0131k Ltd. \u015eti.,\u00a0\u00a0Ankara, 2008; Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 K\u00fclt\u00fcr ve Sanat Komisyonu\u201d[Mustafa Kaz\u0131m Y\u00fccel \u00d6zbirinci, \u0130smail Muzaffer \u00d6zbay, Mehmet Ali K\u00f6k, Muhsin Erol, Erdin\u00e7 Y\u00fcz\u00fcnc\u00fco\u011flu, Metin Bilgin], \u201cArhavi A\u011fz\u0131 Lazca Ana Yaz\u0131m K\u0131lavuzu\u201d, Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 Yay\u0131n\u0131, \u00c7izgi Matbaac\u0131l\u0131k Ltd. \u015eti.,\u00a0\u00a0Ankara, 2008;\u00a0Aziz Turna, \u201cLaz Halk Sanat\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 Ya\u015far Turna\u201d, [Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cDil-Tarih-K\u00fclt\u00fcr-Gelenekleriyle Lazlar\u201d, 1. Bask\u0131, Sorun Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, 2000; 2. Bask\u0131, Belge Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, \u0130stanbul, 2014)]\/\u00a0circassiancenter.com.tr;\u00a0Georges Dum\u00e9zil, \u201cContes Lazes\u201d, Institut d\u2019Ethnologie, Paris, 1937;\u00a0G\u00fclcan Y\u00fcksel As\u0131lyaz\u0131c\u0131: \u201cD\u00f6rt Elle Lazca \u0130\u00e7in Sava\u015fan Biri Olup \u00c7\u0131kt\u0131m!\u201d, 29. III. 2021,\u00a0sonhaber.ch\/\u00a0gurcuhaber.com\/\u00a0circassiancenter.com.tr;\u00a0\u0130nci Derya Turna, \u201cAnadilimiz ve K\u00f6kl\u00fc G\u00fczel K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fcz Yok Olmas\u0131n!\u201d, 11. IX. 2019, circassiancenter.com.tr\/sonhaber.ch;\u00a0\u0130smail Muzaffer \u00d6zbay, Mehmet Ali K\u00f6k,\u00a0\u00a0Muhsin Erol, Metin Bilgin, \u201cArhavi Halk Bilim Ara\u015ft\u0131rmas\u0131\/ Tarih- K\u00fclt\u00fcr- \u0130nsan\u201d, Arhavililer Vakf\u0131, Ankara, 2010;\u00a0Kemal \u00d6zb\u0131y\u0131k:\u00a0\u00a0\u201cOlgun\u00a0\u00a0insanlar bir araya gelmezsek, dilimiz de \u00f6lecek!\u201d, 16. IX. 2023, sonhaber.ch; Kemal \u00d6zb\u0131y\u0131k: \u201cTam k\u0131rk y\u0131l oldu; b\u0131rakmad\u0131m\u201d, 19. IX. 2023, sonhaber.ch;\u00a0\u00a0Kemal \u00d6zb\u0131y\u0131k: \u201cPayla\u015famad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ne var?!\u201d, 25. IX. 2023, sonhaber.ch;\u00a0\u00a0\u201cKolektif Bir \u00c7al\u0131\u015fma: Arhavi Halk Bilim Ara\u015ft\u0131rmas\u0131\u201d, 28. II. 2020,\u00a0sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr;\u00a0M.\u00a0Recai \u00d6zg\u00fcn, (Redaksiyon katk\u0131s\u0131: Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz), \u201cLazlar\u201d, \u00c7iviyaz\u0131lar\u0131 Yay\u0131nevi, \u0130stanbul, 1996;\u00a0M.\u00a0Recai \u00d6zg\u00fcn\u00a0ile Haber& S\u00f6yle\u015fi,\u00a0\u00a0Yeni Kafkasya Gazetesi, Say\u0131 8, Nisan 2003\/ circassiancenter.com.tr;\u00a0M. Recai \u00d6zg\u00fcn, \u201cAtmaca\u201d, [Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cDil-Tarih-K\u00fclt\u00fcr-Gelenekleriyle Lazlar\u201d, 1. Bask\u0131, Sorun Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, 2000; 2. Bask\u0131, Belge Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, \u0130stanbul, 2014]\/\u00a0circassiancenter.com.tr;\u00a0M.\u00a0Recai \u00d6zg\u00fcn, (Redaksiyon katk\u0131s\u0131: Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz), \u201cLaz Muhammed\u201d, \u00c7iviyaz\u0131lar\u0131 Yay\u0131nevi, \u0130stanbul, 2004;\u00a0\u00a0Niyazi Ahmet Bano\u011flu, \u201cGeorges Dum\u00e9zil\u201d, Havadis Gazetesi, 24. VII. 1958; Orhan Bayramin ile Haber& S\u00f6yle\u015fi, Yeni Kafkasya Gazetesi, Say\u0131 5, May\u0131s 2002\/ circassiancenter.com.tr;\u00a0Orhan Bayramin: \u201cLaz Edebiyat\u0131 1996\u2019dan Fersah Fersah \u0130leride!\u201d, 15. III. 2021,\u00a0sonhaber.ch\/\u00a0gurcuhaber.com\/\u00a0circassiancenter.com.tr\/\u00a0simavakfi.org; Osman \u015eafak B\u00fcy\u00fckl\u00fc: \u201cLazlar, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 kolektif ortam i\u00e7inde yapmal\u0131!\u201d,\u00a0circassiancenter.com.tr\/\u00a0sonhaber.ch, 21. VIII. 2019;\u00a0Ralph Dewitt Anderson, \u201cA Grammar of Laz\u201d,University of Texas, 1963;\u00a0Sami Fitoz: \u201c\u00c7ocuklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n anadilimizi \u00f6\u011frenmesini istiyorum!\u201d, 7. X. 2019,\u00a0circassiancenter.com.tr\/ sonhaber.ch;\u00a0Y\u0131lmaz Erdo\u011fan: \u201cBizimkiler Sohum\u2019a Yerle\u015fmi\u015f!\u201d, 22. XI. 2018, circassiancenter.com.tr; Y\u0131lmaz Erdo\u011fan: \u201cOgni K\u00fclt\u00fcr Dergisi\u201d ikinci \u00e7ocu\u011fum olarak kuca\u011f\u0131mdayd\u0131!\u201d ,7. VI. 2022,\u00a0sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; Y\u0131lmaz Erdo\u011fan: \u201cB\u00f6yle bir kitab\u0131 haz\u0131rlamak kolay de\u011fil!\u201d, 09. III. 2024, circassianacenter.com.tr\/ sonhaber.ch]<\/p>\n![\"\"](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgyomtiTwihYWXVwQ6xI6y8KZQ7mGOX7T5pCAHkvIPUNgAqYQhYGYxfE-Q8ZYJ3fmEsD5NAV_b2l8tlEw5-CIRYLinKWsMR6Z7aUi5Rs_yFSiH0gEAe1LNqpDvD9la8uvXl-FLl9J0GANPZELp92FCvQvQ08Vkptns5B4ee2CY6U9wZ4g6PnuEM1ujyQRVM\/w400-h290\/2%20%C4%B0nci%20Derya%20Turna.jpg\")
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\nyoksa bir yerde iyi dinleyin nazar de\u011fmesin,
\n\u015fimdi \u015fimdi Ma\u015fallah S\u00fcphanallah,
\nben size s\u00f6yleyece\u011fim her \u015feyi
\nnazar\u0131 da sesli s\u00f6yleyin ki oyunu bozmayal\u0131m iyi
\nduysunlar heyyy gen\u00e7ler k\u0131z karde\u015flerde iyi misiniz
\niyi anlas\u0131nlar burada duran kim
\ndamat nerede nereye gitti
\nkar\u015f\u0131da m\u0131 nerede damat gelin kay\u0131p m\u0131 oldu
\nhey kaynana yoksa bir yerde
\nben ne yapaca\u011f\u0131m \u00e7ald\u0131lar m\u0131
\nnereye gidece\u011fim nerededir
\nnerede \u015fimdi \u015fimdi ben ne yapaca\u011f\u0131m
\niyi dinleyin nereye gidece\u011fim
\nsenin damad\u0131n heyyy gen\u00e7ler bir bah\u015fi\u015f
\nsak\u0131n s\u0131k\u0131lmay\u0131n getirin de b\u00f6yle b\u00f6yle
\nbir mendil sabaha kadar ba\u015f\u0131na \u00f6rt yapaca\u011f\u0131z
\nbiz yak\u0131\u015fs\u0131n ona \u015fimdi
\ndamat yoksa bir yerde getirsinler
\ni\u015fte geliyor i\u015fte geliyor
\ntam rezil \u00e7\u0131k\u0131verdi bana getirsinler
\niyi dinleyin ben ne yapaca\u011f\u0131m heyyy gen\u00e7ler bir \u015feyler
\nben ne yapaca\u011f\u0131m g\u00f6z\u00fcme \u00e7arp\u0131yor
\nyoksa bir yerde mendil mi o
\nnazar de\u011fecek getiriyor getiriyor
\nyava\u015f yava\u015f heyy kaynana a\u015fa\u011f\u0131 inece\u011fiz
\niyi g\u00fczel kaynana \u00e7\u00f6melelim
\ndamad\u0131na iyi dinleyin
\nmendili de b\u00f6yle sesli ba\u015f\u0131na da \u00f6rtt\u00fc
\nhep beraber oynayal\u0131m
\nyak\u0131\u015ft\u0131 da sesli sesli
\n\u015fimdi \u015fimdi ba\u011f\u0131r\u0131nda
\niyi dinleyin herkes duysun
\nheyyy gen\u00e7ler heyyy kaynana neredesin nerede
\nbundan sonra her zaman b\u00f6yle gen\u00e7lere de nasip olsun.\u201d<\/p>\n![\"\"](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhP8Jc4BtsiWrxpvKX1enlBLsZL8q4WwMr4q_f7rqnA6cq02g-6FYs2SU5RjBAQ_VXkrctmMaBt0OCSehGOI0U7I00YXSPnvvH0_Vg9X4bHWE2omQ9Jy-T5EAemzvn2nswPGuaaOd82w12yIcKQPaaaaJuCFEb3AJNVS4UFTe05FHEe34ohtgThHwO1MpEq\/w400-h199\/5%20Inci%20Derya%20Turna.jpg\")
\n\u00e7ayepeti p\u030c\u0292\u0306ilaten maisi moxta\u015f\u01e9ule
\nlupes gyobo\u01efilaten dudeyiti
\nbgubaten \u015fu\u01e9apeti
\nirdenan didipe mep\u01efilaten
\nmt\u0306\u011firi\u015f orati mulun
\ntudepe bupa\u011faten
\nna dantxasen bonkvaten
\nt\u0306i\u01e9ina obop\u015faten
\ngebabgare nanas
\nmezare\u015fe bida\u015fi babas gyul eburgare
\naprilepe mo\u011fta\u015fi
\nU\u00e7a Zu\u011fak m\u00e7\u011fomepe xoloti mom\u00e7anoren
\nma dido goman\u00e7\u030celen Arkabi \u00e7kimi
\nsoren atmaca doka\u00e7eyi \u01e9o\u00e7epe
\ngolaxtasen t\u0306ulumi do kemen\u00e7e
\ngencepek ibirasen.
\n\u0130ni \u00e7\u01e9ayi isinas ma\u00e7\u030cxape\u015fen dibasen
\nnostoneyi xepeten dadik m\u00e7\u030c\u01e9udi gedvasen.\u201d<\/p>\n
\nT\u00fcm ana diller ya\u015fat\u0131lmal\u0131, ya\u015fas\u0131n istiyorum. Bu u\u011furda yo\u011fun u\u011fra\u015f veren arkada\u015flara minnet duyuyor, te\u015fekk\u00fcr ediyorum. Sava\u015flar olmas\u0131n, silah fabrikalar\u0131 kapans\u0131n! D\u00fcnya liderleri halklar\u0131na insanca ya\u015fam sunsun! Yapam\u0131yorsa \u00e7ekilsin, yapabilen gelsin!
\nHerkes istedi\u011fi gibi dilini ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc ya\u015fas\u0131n. D\u00fcnyam\u0131z yaln\u0131zca insanlara ait de\u011fil. Yerde, g\u00f6kte ya\u015fayan yarat\u0131klar var.\u00a0\u00a0Ku\u015flar \u00f6zg\u00fcr u\u00e7mal\u0131, bitkiler, a\u011fa\u00e7lar, hayvanlar ve insanlara \u00e7i\u00e7ek gibi davran\u0131lmal\u0131. Sevgi, sayg\u0131 g\u00f6sterilmeli. Kar\u0131ncan\u0131n bile g\u00f6zlerinden \u00f6pmeli.
\nAc\u0131larla da olsa bu d\u00fcnyada olmak g\u00fczeldi. Yaln\u0131zca g\u00f6ky\u00fcz\u00fcne \u00e7\u0131plak g\u00f6zle bakmak bile muhte\u015femdi. Te\u015fekk\u00fcrler d\u00fcnya, te\u015fekk\u00fcrler herkese ve her \u015feye. Yedim, i\u00e7tim, bar\u0131nd\u0131m. Katk\u0131s\u0131 olan herkese sonsuz te\u015fekk\u00fcr ediyorum.<\/p>\n![](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhBWgGACAHFDjl8eMKG2G4DAvPnmQRAi-uEbgSSrYgF_4ARu9kymzPIBYSNJJvjoip9yZmw0DPc9U734pWHej-068n_qNRc4lyJZ8HWhS0A1hkKX2ZdzWqGlq2uyAPe7yMKPHpwGO8ulQDCYbh7DT52oGRa0mpPk5TGNoXjx20UIjylOylQRRu9yVoya7Gd\/w400-h191\/6%20%C4%B0nci%20Derya%20Turna.jpg\")
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