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Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong><\/p>\n

Say\u0131n Avukat Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m,<\/p>\n

D\u00fcnya, b\u00f6lge ve \u00fclkemizde yeni dengeler olu\u015fuyor. Fig\u00fcran olmamal\u0131y\u0131z. S\u00f6ylenecek s\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcz ku\u015fkusuz var ve bunu \u00e7e\u015fitli \u015fekillerde dillendirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz. Bu i\u015fler; ak\u0131l, bilgi, y\u00fcrek ve bilek ister. D\u00fcr\u00fcst olmak gerekir. \u00d6nc\u00fclerin birlikte hareket etmesi gerekir. Bir duru\u015fa sahip olmak gerekir.\u00a0 G\u00fc\u00e7 olmak gerekir. Analiz yapma yetene\u011fi gerekir. Ne var ki, zaman\u0131nda, t\u00fcm \u0131srarlar\u0131ma ra\u011fmen,\u00a0bir hesapla\u015fmaya girme cesareti g\u00f6steremedi\u011finiz, iki-\u00fc\u00e7 sayfal\u0131k bir makaleyi kaleme al\u0131p a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa vurma g\u00f6revinizi yerine getiremedi\u011finiz i\u00e7in bu garipliklere yol verdiniz. \u00dcstelik \u201ctav\u015fana ka\u00e7, taz\u0131ya ko\u015f\u201d\u00a0tavr\u0131yla da hareket ettiniz. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla da bug\u00fcnk\u00fc bu ac\u0131nacak h\u00e2lin bir numaral\u0131 m\u00fcsebbibi sizsiniz. \u015eimdi ise rahats\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 dile getiriyor ve ayran\u0131 tekrar s\u00fcte d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorsunuz. B\u00fct\u00fcn bu vb.\u00a0geli\u015fmeleri bilen ve de\u011ferlendirebilen bir ki\u015fi olarak, sizi ciddiye alm\u0131yorum. Bir zamanlar avukatl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131\u00a0yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z, sonradan muar\u0131z\u0131n\u0131z insanlar\u0131n dava dosyalar\u0131n\u0131 bana g\u00f6stermeniz ne kadar yanl\u0131\u015fsa,\u00a0bir derne\u011fe hitaben kaleme ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z ifadeleri bana da aktarman\u0131z o kadar yanl\u0131\u015f. Yine de d\u00fcr\u00fcst\u00a0\u00a0insanlar\u0131 yan\u0131ltmak ve birlikte i\u015f \u00fcretmek gibi cidd\u00ee bir niyetiniz varsa, a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa vurma i\u015flemini vakit\u00a0ge\u00e7irmeden yerine getiriniz. 1992’den bu yana bir de\u011ferlendirme yap\u0131n\u0131z ve c\u00fcmle \u00e2leme ilan ediniz.<\/p>\n

Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz
\n[17 A\u011fustos 2007]<\/p>\n

Say\u0131n Avukat Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m,<\/p>\n

A\u015fa\u011f\u0131daki sorulara a\u00e7\u0131k ve net cevap\u00a0verebilirseniz sevinirim.<\/p>\n

1)\u00a0D\u00e2hil oldu\u011funuz d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fclen siyas\u00ee hareketten ne sebeple ayr\u0131ld\u0131n\u0131z? Sahibi ve Yaz\u0131 i\u015fleri M\u00fcd\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z “Kom\u00fcn” adl\u0131 dergi yay\u0131n hayat\u0131na neden ba\u015flad\u0131 ve yay\u0131n\u0131n\u0131 neden sonland\u0131rd\u0131?<\/p>\n

2) Lazlara y\u00f6nelik bir \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131 yapmaya neden gerek g\u00f6rd\u00fcn\u00fcz? Hangi saiklerle hareket ettiniz? Neyi ama\u00e7l\u0131yordunuz?<\/p>\n

3) Lazlara ilk \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131y\u0131 ne\u00a0zaman yapt\u0131n\u0131z? “Alyans D\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn Salonu”ndaki toplant\u0131y\u0131 kimlerle d\u00fczenlediniz? O toplant\u0131da nas\u0131l bir konu\u015fma yapt\u0131n\u0131z? Konu\u015fma metninizi ula\u015ft\u0131rman\u0131z m\u00fcmk\u00fcn m\u00fc?<\/p>\n

4)”Akt\u00fcel Dergisi”ne verdi\u011finiz r\u00f6portaj ve a\u00e7\u0131klamalarda s\u00f6ylediklerinizi ink\u00e2r etti\u011finizi hat\u0131rlam\u0131yorum. Ancak\u00a0“Bug\u00fcn Gazetesi”nde \u00e7\u0131kan a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131n\u0131 ink\u00e2r etti\u011finizi, hatta dava a\u00e7t\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 biliyorum. Bu davan\u0131n safahat ve sonucunu herkesten saklad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 biliyorum. Neden? Ayr\u0131ca; “Akt\u00fcel Dergisi”ne s\u00f6ylediklerinizle “Bug\u00fcn Gazetesi”nde yaz\u0131lanlar\u0131n ayn\u0131 oldu\u011funu \u00e7ok iyi\u00a0bilmenize ra\u011fmen, niye s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fcz\u00fcn arkas\u0131nda durmad\u0131n\u0131z? Bunu bir hata olarak g\u00f6rm\u00fcyor musunuz? Ya da “Akt\u00fcel Dergisi”ne s\u00f6ylediklerinizin zamans\u0131z ve haz\u0131rl\u0131ks\u0131z oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyor musunuz? “Akt\u00fcel Dergisi”ne s\u00f6ylediklerinizi en az elli defa okudum.\u00a0Sonradan \u00e7ok iyi \u00f6\u011frendim ki, yaln\u0131zd\u0131n\u0131z. Buna ra\u011fmen, sanki birbiriyle ili\u015fkili ve \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan insanlar\u0131n bir hareketi varm\u0131\u015f gibi bir imaj olu\u015fturman\u0131z\u0131n amac\u0131 neydi? Neden “Laz Bujuvazisi de destekliyor” deme ihtiyac\u0131n\u0131 hissettiniz?\u00a0Laz Burjuvazisinden medet umuyor veya deste\u011fini sa\u011fl\u0131yormu\u015f gibi bir davran\u0131\u015f sergilemeniz, ge\u00e7mi\u015finizle hi\u00e7 uyu\u015fuyor muydu?\u00a0S\u00f6ylediklerinizin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda bir \u015feylerin yaz\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyerek bir bahanenizin ge\u00e7erlili\u011fin bulunmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bilmelisiniz.<\/p>\n

5) Unutmay\u0131n: “Akt\u00fcel Dergisi”ne s\u00f6yledikleriniz, d\u00fc\u015fman\u0131n eline koz vermi\u015f, dostlar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 da zora d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. Vak\u0131f kurmak i\u00e7in yola \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131n\u0131z. “Akt\u00fcel Dergisi”ne yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z sorumsuz a\u00e7\u0131klamalar sebebiyle, “Bug\u00fcn Gazetesi”nden vurgun yediniz. “Ogni Dergisi S\u00fcreci”ni bu s\u00fcrecin bilin\u00e7li ve do\u011fal bir sonucu olarak sunmayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. \u00d6nce oturmak, bir manifesto haz\u0131rlamak ve ard\u0131ndan da \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya ba\u015flamak; b\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar sizin ak\u0131l edemeyece\u011finiz konular m\u0131yd\u0131?!<\/p>\n

6)\u00a0 “Ogni K\u00fclt\u00fcr Dergisi”, kolektif bir \u00e7abayd\u0131.\u00a0Herkesin katk\u0131s\u0131 vard\u0131. Az veya \u00e7ok. Tombak Bey\u2019in ofisinde d\u00fczenledi\u011finiz toplant\u0131ya kat\u0131lmad\u0131m. Ancak s\u00f6ylediklerinizi okudum. Okudum ve g\u00fcld\u00fcm. \u015e\u00f6yle diyorsunuz: “Bizi \u00e7ok ki\u015fi zannediyorlard\u0131, ama bir iki-\u00fc\u00e7 ki\u015fiydik.” Bu s\u00f6zler, siyas\u00ee bir ge\u00e7mi\u015fi olan, siyas\u00ee bir derginin sahip ve yaz\u0131 i\u015fleri m\u00fcd\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc yapm\u0131\u015f, ya\u015f\u0131n\u0131 ba\u015f\u0131n\u0131 alm\u0131\u015f ve y\u0131llard\u0131r avukatl\u0131k yapan birine yak\u0131\u015f\u0131yor mu? Yeri geldi\u011fi zaman, “i\u015fi ki\u015filer \u00fczerinden” alg\u0131lamamak l\u00e2z\u0131m” diyorsunuz. \u0130\u015finize geldi\u011fi zaman da,\u00a0a\u011fz\u0131n\u0131za geleni arkalar\u0131ndan s\u00f6yledi\u011finiz insanlar\u0131n ard\u0131na tak\u0131l\u0131p, onlar\u0131n tutars\u0131zl\u0131klar\u0131na ortak oluyorsunuz. Hi\u00e7 tutarl\u0131 davranm\u0131yorsunuz. Neden? \u00d6nce dernek kurucusu oluyorsunuz. Sonra bu dernekten ayr\u0131l\u0131yorsunuz. \u0130nternette \u00e7\u0131kan foto\u011fraf ve hareketli g\u00f6r\u00fcnt\u00fcleri izledim.\u00a0Zavall\u0131 Pontus\u00a0Halk\u0131n\u0131 kullanmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan ve onlar\u0131n Rum oldu\u011fu propagandas\u0131n\u0131 yapan g\u00f6bekli zatlar bir yanda, Kabo\u011flu \u00f6te yanda. Sarigina’n\u0131n s\u00f6zlerini aya\u011f\u0131ndaki kot\u00a0pantolonuyla dinleyen zaataliniz! Yak\u0131\u015f\u0131yor mu size?! Madem dernek\u00e7ilik oynayacakt\u0131n\u0131z neden bu kadar s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 \u00e7ektiniz?<\/p>\n

7)\u00a0“Ogni K\u00fclt\u00fcr Dergisi”nin idarehanesi sizin yaz\u0131hanenizdi.\u00a0Adres de\u011fi\u015fti. Ta\u015f\u0131n\u0131ld\u0131. Sonra da dergi yay\u0131n\u0131na\u00a0\u00a0son verdi. Neden bu de\u011fi\u015fiklikler oldu?<\/p>\n

8)\u00a0Bir g\u00fcn \u00dclk\u00fcc\u00fc bir tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z anlatt\u0131. Tehdit alm\u0131\u015fs\u0131n\u0131z bir yerlerden. Ben bunu sizden duymay\u0131 tercih ederdim. Niye?<\/p>\n

9)\u00a0 Sizin gibi siyas\u00ee ge\u00e7mi\u015fi olan bir ki\u015finin\u00a0ANAP milletvekili bilmem kimin referans\u0131n\u0131 can simidi gibi sunmas\u0131 da \u00e7ok komik.<\/p>\n

10) Y\u0131llar \u00f6nce 105.7\/ \u00c7evre Radyo program\u0131 \u201cRadyo Tanura\u201dda bir\u00a0s\u00f6yle\u015fi\u00a0yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z. Hat\u0131rl\u0131yor musunuz? Orada s\u00f6yledikleriniz, Tombak Bey\u2019in ofisinde s\u00f6yledikleriniz ve burada s\u00f6ylemeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131z\u2026 B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlarda bir tutarl\u0131l\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fcyor musunuz?<\/p>\n

11) Hangi saikle olursa olsun, bir yola girdiniz. Ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z oldunuz. Bu ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc defolu sonu\u00e7 \u015fimdi emperyalizmin maymunu Saaka\u015fvili ile fl\u00f6rt i\u00e7inde. Bunda hi\u00e7 sorumluluk hissetmiyor musunuz? \u00dcz\u00fclm\u00fcyor musunuz?<\/p>\n

12) Ge\u00e7enlerde bir forward yapm\u0131\u015fs\u0131n\u0131z. Okudum. Dil ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131kl\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcmsemi\u015fsiniz. Buna hakk\u0131n\u0131z var m\u0131? Saaka\u015fvili ile ba\u011flant\u0131l\u0131, oradan beslenenlerle ili\u015fki kuranlarla birlikte g\u00f6z\u00fckmeyi kendinize nas\u0131l yak\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131yorsunuz?<\/p>\n

13) Ge\u00e7mi\u015fle hesapla\u015fmadan, ele\u015ftiri-\u00f6zele\u015ftiri mekanizmalar\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131rmadan g\u00fczel bir ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7 yap\u0131labilece\u011fine inan\u0131yor musunuz? Emperyalist AB ve ABD’nin kurulu\u015flar\u0131 UNESCO ve AH\u0130M yalakal\u0131\u011f\u0131 size ne kadar uzakl\u0131kta? Emperyalist yalakal\u0131\u011f\u0131 yapanlarla aran\u0131zda ne kadar mesafe var?<\/p>\n

Ho\u015f\u00e7akal\u0131n.<\/p>\n

Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/p>\n

[17 Mart 2010]<\/p>\n

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DOST ACI S\u00d6YLER, ANCAK ZAMANINDA OLURSA!<\/strong><\/p>\n

https:\/\/groups.google.com\/g\/gurcu_kultur_merkezi\/c\/wiOvonOODoY?pli=1<\/a><\/p>\n

[DEMOKRAT\u0130K G\u00dcRC\u00dcLER PLATFORMU OLARAK LAZ AYDINI AHMET HULUS\u0130 KIRIM \u0130LE YAPTI\u011eIMIZ R\u00d6PORTAJ\/ 13 A\u011fu 2011]<\/p>\n

\u201cOgni K\u00fclt\u00fcr Dergisi\u2019ni yay\u0131nlayan Laz ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 olarak bir hesapla\u015fmaya ve bir muhasebeye ta 1994\u2019den beri ihtiyac\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n oldu\u011fu kesin. Ancak Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m\u2019\u0131n \u015fimdi yapmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi de\u011fil! Ben de\u011fil eski arkada\u015f\u0131na, d\u00fc\u015fman\u0131na bile \u015fevkatle yakla\u015fmas\u0131 gereken bir anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131n savunucusuyum. Bu sebeple de Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m\u2019\u0131n s\u00f6yle\u015fideki baz\u0131 ifadelerini yanl\u0131\u015f, baz\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 da gecikmi\u015f ve zamans\u0131z buluyorum. Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m, \u201cPaparazi\u201d izlenimi uyand\u0131ran ifadelerini hemen d\u00fczeltmelidir. \u201cBenden sonra Tufan\u201d mant\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 terk etmelidir. Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m Yazm\u0131\u015f. Netle\u015ftirmesi gereken ifadelerini t\u0131rnak i\u00e7inde aktar\u0131yorum. K\u00f6\u015feli parantez i\u00e7inde k\u0131sa sorular bana ait.<\/p>\n

1)\u201c1992 senesinde k\u0131sa bir haz\u0131rl\u0131ktan sonra bir avu\u00e7 arkada\u015f\u0131m\u0131zla<\/em> [K\u0130MLER?] birlikte giri\u015fimlere ba\u015flad\u0131k. Bunun ilk n\u00fcvesi yay\u0131nlanmas\u0131 i\u00e7in moral<\/em> [NASIL?] anlam\u0131nda katk\u0131da bulundu\u011fum<\/em> \u00a0 [NE MANADA?] \u201cLazlar\u2019\u0131n Tarihi\u201d kitab\u0131 oldu.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

2)\u201cAncak ne ac\u0131d\u0131r ki kumar oynatmaktan ba\u015fka amac\u0131 olmayan dernek y\u00f6neticileri (birka\u00e7 y\u00f6netici hari\u00e7 )<\/em> [HANG\u0130 DERNEKLER? HANG\u0130 Y\u00d6NET\u0130C\u0130LER?] yak\u0131nl\u0131k g\u00f6stermek bir yana aleyhimize <\/em>[S\u0130Z K\u0130MD\u0130N\u0130Z?] bunlar b\u00f6l\u00fcc\u00fc diye propaganda yapt\u0131.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

3)\u201cBen de g\u00f6zlemci olarak bulundum.\u201d<\/em> [G\u00d6ZLEMC\u0130L\u0130K NED\u0130R?]<\/p>\n

4)\u201cUnutamad\u0131\u011f\u0131m dramatik bir vaka ise \u015fu an kendisini ulusalc\u0131 olarak konumland\u0131ran ve Laz olan Sabahattin \u00d6nkibar\u2019\u0131n, \u201cT\u00fcrkiye Gazetesi\u201dnde bizlerin<\/em> [\u201cB\u0130Z\u201d DED\u0130\u011e\u0130N\u0130Z K\u0130M?] Moskova\u2019dan beslendi\u011fimizi, sicilli kom\u00fcnistler oldu\u011fumuzu iddia etmesiydi. Yazar\u0131n kalemi o kadar pe\u015fin h\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fc ve kanl\u0131 idi ki, benim \u00a0 <\/em> [B\u0130R \u201cBEN\u201d D\u0130YORSUNUZ, B\u0130R \u201cB\u0130Z\u201d D\u0130YORSUNUZ. HANG\u0130S\u0130?] siyasal ya\u015fam\u0131m boyunca Sovyet ve Amerikan emperyalizmine kar\u015f\u0131 m\u00fccadele etti\u011fimi bile bilmiyordu. Belli ki bir yerlerden verilen bilgileri servis etmi\u015fti.\u201d<\/em> [NEREDEN?]<\/p>\n

5)\u201cBu Planl\u0131, provokatif yay\u0131nlar \u00fczerine o g\u00fcne kadar destek veren arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n \u00e7o\u011fu ya\u015famlar\u0131ndan endi\u015feye kap\u0131l\u0131p bizlerden uzakla\u015ft\u0131<\/em>. [K\u0130MLER?] Sonu\u00e7ta bir avu\u00e7 kararl\u0131 insan<\/em> [K\u0130MLER?] kald\u0131. Lin\u00e7 tamamland\u0131. Vak\u0131f ser\u00fcveni de b\u00f6ylece akamete u\u011fram\u0131\u015f oldu.\u201d<\/em> [NEDEN B\u0130R BASIN A\u00c7IKLAMASI YAPMADINIZ?]<\/p>\n

6)\u201c1993 yaz\u0131nda yap\u0131lan bir piknik sonucu geli\u015fme oldu. Baz\u0131 arkada\u015flar aram\u0131za kat\u0131ld\u0131. Yava\u015f yava\u015f dergi \u00e7\u0131karma d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesi olgunla\u015ft\u0131.[NASIL?] Yaz\u0131lar toplanmaya ba\u015flad\u0131.\u201d<\/em> [K\u0130MLER?]<\/p>\n

7)\u201cAncak birinci say\u0131n\u0131n i\u00e7eri\u011fi ve yaz\u0131lar tart\u0131\u015f\u0131l\u0131rken baz\u0131 arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z dergi \u00e7\u0131k\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131n ertelenmesini istedi.<\/em> [K\u0130MLER?] Yo\u011fun tart\u0131\u015fmalardan sonra gelinen a\u015faman\u0131n k\u0131r\u0131lma noktas\u0131 oldu\u011funu kabul ile itiraz eden arkada\u015flarla yolumuzu ay\u0131rd\u0131k<\/em>.\u201d [K\u0130MD\u0130N\u0130Z? K\u0130MLERLE?]<\/p>\n

8) \u201cElimizde<\/em> [K\u0130M\u0130N ELLER\u0130NDE?] kalan tecr\u00fcbeli diyebilece\u011fim<\/em> [TECR\u00dcBE \u00d6L\u00c7ER AHMET BEY M\u0130S\u0130N\u0130Z?] Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, Y\u00fcksel Y\u0131lmaz ve gen\u00e7 deneyimsiz \u0130smail Avc\u0131, M. Ali Bar\u0131\u015f Be\u015fli gibi 3-5<\/em> [\u00dc\u00c7- M\u00dc? BE\u015e M\u0130?] arkada\u015fla yola devam ve derginin s\u00fcratle \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lmas\u0131 karar\u0131n\u0131 verdik. <\/em>[K\u0130MLER?]<\/p>\n

9) \u201cNitekim aradan ge\u00e7en uzun s\u00fcre\u00e7te bir\u00e7ok dergi \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen ayn\u0131 nitelikte ve onu a\u015fan mevkute \u00e7\u0131karmak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmad\u0131.\u201d [BU DURUMDAN S\u0130Z\u0130N SORUMLULU\u011eUNUZ?! SONRADAN YAYINLANAN DERG\u0130LERE HAKSIZLIK YAPMIYOR MUSUNUZ?<\/em>]<\/p>\n

10) \u201c15 g\u00fcnl\u00fck periyotta yay\u0131n yapan bir gazete \u00e7\u0131karabilseydik bug\u00fcn her \u015fey \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 olurdu.\u201d [EM\u0130N M\u0130S\u0130N\u0130Z?]<\/p>\n

11) \u201cAradan ge\u00e7en 18 senede bu soru bana \u00e7ok\u00e7a soruldu ve her seferinde derginin yay\u0131n faaliyetine son vermesini objektif-subjektif nedenler gibi soyut bir ifade ile ge\u00e7i\u015ftirdim. \u0130stedim ki kitleler \u00fczerinde h\u00e2l\u00e2 bir prestiji olan derginin imaj\u0131 zedelenmesin.<\/em>\u201d [N\u0130YE GE\u00c7\u0130\u015eT\u0130RD\u0130N\u0130Z? SEBEP?!]<\/p>\n

12)\u201cAma son hafta g\u00f6rd\u00fcklerim <\/em>[ NEYM\u0130\u015e BUNLAR?] ve derginin sahibi-yaz\u0131 i\u015fleri m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc g\u00f6revi verdi\u011fimiz <\/em>[K\u0130M? KEND\u0130S\u0130 G\u00d6N\u00dcLL\u00dc OLARAK \u00dcSTLEND\u0130!] Say\u0131n Memetali Bar\u0131\u015f Be\u015fli\u2019nin \u015fimdi okudu\u011fum<\/em> [ZAMANDAN EM\u0130N M\u0130S\u0130N\u0130Z?] baz\u0131 dergilerdeki<\/em> [HANG\u0130LER\u0130?] a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda tarihe not d\u00fc\u015fmek ad\u0131na<\/em> [!] baz\u0131 ger\u00e7ekleri a\u00e7\u0131klaman\u0131n art\u0131k farz oldu\u011fu noktas\u0131na geldim.<\/em>\u201d[GEC\u0130KMED\u0130N\u0130Z M\u0130?]<\/p>\n

13)\u201cOgni\u2019yi \u00e7\u0131karanlar vicdanlar\u0131n\u0131 temizledi\u011finde Ogni \u00e7\u0131kabilir?\u201d<\/em> [K\u0130MLER?]<\/p>\n

14)\u201c31.05.2008 tarihinde yap\u0131lan Laz K\u00fclt\u00fcr Derne\u011finin ilk kongresinde yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m konu\u015fmada aynen \u015funlar\u0131 s\u00f6ylemi\u015ftim.\u201d<\/em>[ YA DERNEK KURULURKEN DED\u0130KLER\u0130N\u0130Z?!]<\/p>\n

15)\u201c\u0130\u015fin enteresan y\u00f6n\u00fc 2- 3 sene \u00f6nce Birol Topalo\u011flu Lazona\u2019da festival yapmak i\u00e7in bir Amerikal\u0131 Vak\u0131f ile<\/em> [O ZAMAN NEDEN SUSTUNUZ?] anla\u015fma yap\u0131p sponsor deste\u011fi ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in k\u0131yameti kopar\u0131p bas\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131klamas\u0131 yapan derne\u011fimin ba\u015fkan\u0131 Be\u015fli \u015fimdi ne de\u011fi\u015fmi\u015fti de ele\u015ftirdi\u011fi pozisyona d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Avrupa Birli\u011fi Amerikal\u0131 bir vak\u0131ftan farkl\u0131 m\u0131 idi\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

16)\u201cBenim halk\u0131m\u0131n<\/em> [AYTEN ALPMAN \u015eARKISINDAK\u0130 G\u0130B\u0130!] emperyalist devletlerle ve\/veya onlarla ba\u011flant\u0131l\u0131 kurumlardan alaca\u011f\u0131 sadakalarla kimlik m\u00fccadelesi vermeye ihtiyac\u0131 yoktur ve bunu ben halk\u0131m ad\u0131na bir zul addediyorum\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

17)\u201cE\u011fer<\/em> [S\u0130Z HUKUK\u00c7USUNUZ!] bu proje, iyi saatte olsunlar [K\u0130MLER?] m\u00fcdahil olmu\u015f ve bu iki kurulu\u015fta fark\u0131nda olmadan karde\u015flik diye K\u00fcrt halk\u0131n\u0131 <\/em>[POP\u00dcL\u0130ZM M\u0130?] izole edip di\u011fer az\u0131nl\u0131k milliyetlerin diyalo\u011funu sa\u011flamaya, onlar\u0131 kontrol alt\u0131nda tutmaya matuf bir ama\u00e7 ta\u015f\u0131yorsa durum daha da vahim demektir.<\/em>\u201d [NASIL?]<\/p>\n

18)\u201cDerginin yay\u0131n\u0131na ara vermesi ile ilgili anlatacaklar\u0131ma \u00a0 gelince; Dergi bir\u00e7ok<\/em> [NE G\u0130B\u0130?!] nedenden dolay\u0131 daha fazla \u00f6mr\u00fcn\u00fc s\u00fcrd\u00fcremedi.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

19)\u201cDerginin yay\u0131nlanan 6 say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n haz\u0131rlanma s\u00fcrecinde genel yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni olarak ben ve Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz gerek yaz\u0131lar\u0131n haz\u0131rlanmas\u0131nda ve gerekse dizgi, matbaa i\u015flerinde ola\u011fan\u00fcst\u00fc gayret g\u00f6sterdik.<\/em> [SEBEP?! MATBAA?!] De\u011fi\u015fik 3-4 adla her say\u0131da ba\u015fyaz\u0131y\u0131, \u00fclke ve d\u00fcnyadaki geli\u015fmelere ili\u015fkin bir\u00e7ok yaz\u0131y\u0131 kaleme ald\u0131m.\u201d<\/em> [\u00dc\u00c7 M\u00dc, D\u00d6RT M\u00dc? HANG\u0130 ADLARLA?]<\/p>\n

20)\u201cSay\u0131n Aksamaz da kendisinin kaleme ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 veya terc\u00fcme etti\u011fi yaz\u0131larla \u00f6nemli katk\u0131 yapt\u0131. Keza \u0130smail Avc\u0131, Memetali Be\u015fli ve di\u011fer arkada\u015flar da birikimleri \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde katk\u0131 sa\u011flamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131.\u201d<\/em> [NASIL?!]<\/p>\n

21)\u201c\u00d6rne\u011fin \u0130st. Valisi Hayri Kozak\u00e7\u0131o\u011flu bir elinde Ogni dergileri ile bizleri Almanya\u2019dan beslenen b\u00f6l\u00fcc\u00fcler olarak bas\u0131n toplant\u0131s\u0131nda ilan ederken derginin sahibi s\u0131fat\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yan Memetali Bar\u0131\u015f Be\u015fli\u2019yi su\u00e7 duyurusu yapmak ve sembolik tazminat davas\u0131 a\u00e7mak i\u00e7in ikna edemedik. <\/em>[K\u0130M?] Al\u00e7ak\u00e7a yafta \u00fczerimizde kald\u0131. Korkmu\u015f olduk.\u201d<\/em> [BASIN A\u00c7ILAMASI YAPILAMAZ MIYDI?! \u00d6NEREN OLMADI MI?!]<\/p>\n

22)\u201cOgni\u2019nin kurulu\u015f gecesinde geceye kat\u0131lan hi\u00e7bir halk m\u00fczi\u011fi sanat\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 bizden \u00fccret talep etmezken kendi grubumuz denen Zuga\u015fi Berepe ad\u0131na Memetali Be\u015fli\u2019nin tam sahneye \u00e7\u0131kma esnas\u0131nda koridorda illa \u00fccretimizi vereceksin yoksa sahneye \u00e7\u0131kmay\u0131z demesini ve ar belas\u0131 yar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 verdikten sonra sahneye \u00e7\u0131kmalar\u0131n\u0131 unutamam.\u201d<\/em> [NEDEN \u015e\u0130MD\u0130 S\u00d6YL\u00dcYORSUNUZ?]<\/p>\n

23)\u201cDerginin ilk say\u0131s\u0131 toplat\u0131ld\u0131ktan sonra [toplat\u0131lan yaz\u0131lar\u0131n yazarlar\u0131 ben, \u0130smail Avc\u0131 ve M. Ali Be\u015fli idi] yaz\u0131 i\u015fleri m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc olarak onu DGM\u2019de sorguya g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcrken kendisi de toplat\u0131lmaya gerek\u00e7e g\u00f6sterilen bir yaz\u0131n\u0131n yazar\u0131 oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in ilk a\u015famada savc\u0131ya bilgi vermemesi sonras\u0131nda di\u011fer yaz\u0131lar\u0131 da \u00fcstlenmesi i\u00e7in mutab\u0131k kalm\u0131\u015fken sorguda ben ve \u0130smail\u2019in ismini vermesini, \u00e7ok endi\u015felendi\u011fi i\u00e7in onu teselli edi\u015fimizi unutamam. Bu olay\u0131 takiben dergi sorumlulu\u011fundan ayr\u0131lmak istemesini unutamam.\u201d<\/em> [NEDEN \u015e\u0130MD\u0130?]<\/p>\n

24)\u201cBe\u015fli\u2019nin tatilde olmamdan<\/em> [DERG\u0130, S\u0130Z ANLAMINA MI GEL\u0130YOR?!] istifade ederek kendi ba\u015f\u0131na 5.say\u0131da derginin o ana kadar izledi\u011fi yay\u0131n politikas\u0131na taban tabana z\u0131t bir yaz\u0131y\u0131 ba\u015fyaz\u0131 olarak koymas\u0131n\u0131 unutamam.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

25)\u201c\u0130ngiltere\u2019de dergi temsilcili\u011fi yapan ismi bende sakl\u0131 <\/em>[NEDEN?] bir dostumuzun a\u00e7t\u0131\u011f\u0131 telefona Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz\u2019\u0131n \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131, onun dergi paralar\u0131n\u0131n niye g\u00f6nderilmedi diye serzeni\u015fte<\/em> [B\u00d6YLE B\u0130R \u015eEYDEN BEN\u0130M N\u0130YE HABER\u0130M YOK?!] \u00a0 bulunmas\u0131 \u00fczerine dostumuzun<\/em> [K\u0130M?] bizim bilmedi\u011fimiz bir hesaba<\/em> [K\u0130M\u0130N?] g\u00f6nderildi\u011fini s\u00f6ylemesini unutamam. Bunlar\u0131 ya\u015fayan arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z halen sa\u011fd\u0131r.<\/em>\u201d[K\u0130MLER?]<\/p>\n

26)\u201cBu ve bunun gibi bir\u00e7ok maddi olgu derginin daha fazla ya\u015famas\u0131n\u0131 do\u011fald\u0131r ki engelledi.<\/em>\u201d [O ZAMAN NEDEN SUSTUNUZ?]<\/p>\n

27)\u201cDi\u011fer 2 dergi ise bana g\u00f6re iyi niyetli olmakla birlikte kula\u011f\u0131 tersten g\u00f6steren <\/em>[NASIL?], cesur olmayan<\/em> [NASIL?], belli bir yay\u0131n \u00e7izgisi olmayan dergilerdi<\/em>.\u201d [S\u0130Z NE YAPTINIZ?!]<\/p>\n

28)\u201cSormal\u0131d\u0131r da. 1992\u2019den bu yana ge\u00e7en 19<\/em> [ 18?!] senede di\u015fe okunur bir geli\u015fmenin sa\u011fland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemek abesle i\u015ftigal etmek olur.\u201d<\/em> [S\u0130Z NE YAPTINIZ?!]<\/p>\n

29)\u201cE\u011fer bizler daha kal\u0131c\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar yap\u0131p \u00f6rg\u00fctl\u00fcl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc art\u0131rabilseydik \u015fimdi demokratik haklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 daha kararl\u0131 bir \u015fekilde ister zaman\u0131 geldi\u011finde de az\u0131nl\u0131k haklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n anayasal g\u00fcvenceye ba\u011flanmas\u0131 i\u00e7in pazarl\u0131k masas\u0131na oturabilirdik.\u201d<\/em> [S\u0130Z HANG\u0130 \u00c7ABAYI G\u00d6STERD\u0130N\u0130Z?!]<\/p>\n

30) \u201cTemel al\u0131nmas\u0131 gereken \u00fcst\u00fcne basa basa s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum. K\u0130ML\u0130K M\u00dcCADELES\u0130 vermektir.\u201d [S\u0130Z HANG\u0130 \u00c7ABAYI G\u00d6STERD\u0130N\u0130Z?!]<\/p>\n

31)\u201cMegrel karde\u015flerimizin her sorunu bizi \u00fczer derinden yaralar. Onlara uygulanan kartvelist asimilasyoncu politikalar can\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 ac\u0131t\u0131r. Biz Ogni s\u00fcrecinden itibaren bu soruna parmak bast\u0131k<\/em> [K\u0130M?] ve basmaya da devam edece\u011fiz\u201d<\/em> [NE YAZDINIZ?!]<\/p>\n

32)\u201cLKD, Ankara Laz K\u00fclt\u00fcr ve Dayan\u0131\u015fma Derne\u011fi, Sima Vakf\u0131 ve bireysel bir\u00e7ok dostumuzla aylar s\u00fcren g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler yapt\u0131k.<\/em>[K\u0130MLER?] Ancak bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc olumlu kar\u015f\u0131lasa da b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc sa\u011flamak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmad\u0131. B\u00f6ylece tarihi bir f\u0131rsat da ka\u00e7m\u0131\u015f oldu.\u201d<\/em> [NE ZAMAN? K\u0130MLER K\u0130MLERLE? OLUMSUZ SONU\u00c7TA S\u0130Z\u0130N ROL\u00dcN\u00dcZ?!]<\/p>\n

33)\u201cSenin emperyalistin k\u00f6t\u00fc benim ki iyi \u015feklinde bir anlay\u0131\u015f hastal\u0131kl\u0131d\u0131r.\u201d[<\/em>K\u0130M B\u00d6YLE D\u0130YOR?]<\/p>\n

34)\u201cBenim na\u00e7izane d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncem t\u00fcm Kafkas halklar\u0131n\u0131n [HANG\u0130LER\u0130?] emperyalizme, yay\u0131lmac\u0131l\u0131\u011fa kar\u015f\u0131 birle\u015fik cepheyi olu\u015fturup birlikte m\u00fccadele etmeleridir.\u201d<\/em> [NASIL?!]<\/p>\n

35)\u201cAbhazya ve G. Osetya sorununa gelince; Bir kere ben temel ilke olarak uluslar\u0131n kendi kaderini tayin etme hakk\u0131 oldu\u011funu kabul ederim. Bu anlamda bu halklar \u00f6zg\u00fcr iradeleriyle kendi kaderini tayin etmek istiyorlarsa bu onlar\u0131n en do\u011fal hakk\u0131d\u0131r.\u201d<\/em> [SOMUT \u00d6NER\u0130?! ABHAZYA VE G. OSETYA\u2019NIN DEMOGRAF\u0130K YAPISINI B\u0130L\u0130YOR MUSUNUZ?]<\/p>\n

36)\u201cBizim i\u00e7in acil g\u00f6rev g\u00f6vdemizdeki habis uru yani i\u015fbirlik\u00e7i unsurlar\u0131 temizlemek olmal\u0131d\u0131r.<\/em> [K\u0130M\u0130?] Bu unsurlarla m\u00fccadeleye y\u0131lmadan devam edece\u011fiz.<\/em> [NASIL?] Zira bu tayin edici k\u0131r\u0131lma noktas\u0131d\u0131r.\u201d<\/em> [NASIL YAN\u0130?!]<\/p>\n

37)\u201cSizin gibi y\u00fcre\u011fi bu topraklarda olan G\u00fcrc\u00fc ve \u00c7erkez karde\u015flerimizle de karde\u015flik temelinde bir platforma olu\u015fturman\u0131n yararl\u0131 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum\u2026 Bunun i\u00e7in \u00f6nerdi\u011fim ilkeli ve hedefleri olan Kafkas platformu ilk ad\u0131m olabilir. Daha sonra birlikte bir yay\u0131n organ\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lmas\u0131 da yararl\u0131 olacakt\u0131r.\u201d<\/em> [S\u0130ZE VAH\u0130Y M\u0130 GELD\u0130?]<\/p>\n

38) \u201cBiz sizinle ger\u00e7ek bir karde\u015flik ili\u015fkisi kurmak istiyoruz.\u201d <\/em>[\u201cB\u0130Z\u201d K\u0130M? \u201cS\u0130ZLER\u201d K\u0130M?]<\/p>\n

Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/p>\n

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(\u00d6nerilen okumalar<\/strong>: Ahmet K\u0131r\u0131m: \u201cLaz Burjuvazisi De Destekliyor\u201d (Ha\u015fim Akman: \u201cLaz Enstit\u00fcs\u00fc Kuruluyor\u201d, A Akt\u00fcel Dergisi, say\u0131 66, 8- 14 Ekim 1992)\/ sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cBirinci Laz K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc Toplant\u0131s\u0131\u201d, circassiancenter.com.tr, 5. XII. 2004; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cYamakho\u011flu Y\u00fcksel Y\u0131lmaz (\u00d6ld\u00fc m\u00fc?!)\u201d, Sima Dergisi, Say\u0131 7, Sima Laz Vakf\u0131 Yay\u0131n\u0131, Fotosan Ofset, \u0130zmit, Mart 2005\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, “Ne Diyeyim Bilemiyorum\u2026”, circassiancenter.com.tr ; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cLaz Ayd\u0131nlar\u0131\u201dna \u00fc\u00e7 Mektubum\u201d, circassiancenter.com.tr, 19. I. 2007;<\/p>\n

24 Ocak 2007; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cBir \u201cAyd\u0131n\u201da \u0130ki Mektup\u201d, circassiancenter.com.tr, 3. I. \u00a0 2008; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cBir \u201cAyd\u0131n\u201da E-posta\u201d, circassiancenter.com.tr, 5. III. 2008; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cLaz Ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 Platformu Olu\u015fturma Toplant\u0131lar\u0131ndaki Konu\u015fmalar\u0131m\u201d (\u201cLaz Ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 ve Sorumluluk, 1. Bask\u0131, Sorun Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, \u0130stanbul, 2011)\/ sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cBaz\u0131 Laz Ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 Aras\u0131nda Geciken Hesapla\u015fmalar ve Unutulan Kimlik M\u00fccadelesi\u201d, circassiancenter.com.tr, 21. VIII. 2011; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cBen Etnik Partilere Kar\u015f\u0131y\u0131m!\u201d, (Murat \u00d6zden, \u201c\u00c7erkes Siyasalla\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131n \u00d6nc\u00fcleri\u201d, Apra Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k, \u0130stanbul, 2018)\/ circasiancenter.com.tr, 11. VII. 2015; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cOgni K\u00fclt\u00fcr Dergisi (An\u0131-1)\u201d, circassiancenter.com.tr, 15. XI. 2015; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, “Laz Ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131n giri\u015fimine bas\u0131ndan tepkiler”, sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr, 14. V. 2022; Cemil Kanto\u011flu: \u201cAhmet K\u0131r\u0131m\u2019a Kat\u0131lm\u0131yorum\u201d, Ala\u015fara Dergisi, Say\u0131 5-6, Nart Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k, \u0130stanbul, 1995; Ha\u015fim Akman: \u201cLaz Enstit\u00fcs\u00fc Kuruluyor\u201d, A Akt\u00fcel Dergisi, say\u0131 66, 8- 14 \u00a0 Ekim 1992; (Haber- s\u00f6yle\u015fiyi yay\u0131na haz\u0131rlayan: Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz), sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; K\u00e2mil Aksoylu, \u201cTarihe Tan\u0131kl\u0131k\/ Laz K\u00fclt\u00fcrel Hareketi\/ 93 S\u00fcreci\u201d (\u201cLaz K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc\u201d, Phoenix Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, Ankara, 2009); Mecit \u00c7ak\u0131rusta: \u201cBen Bu \u0130\u015fe Ana Lisan\u0131m\u0131 Ya\u015fatmak \u0130\u00e7in Girdim!\u201d\/Mecit \u00c7ak\u0131rusta ile Haber& S\u00f6yle\u015fi, Yeni Kafkasya Gazetesi, Say\u0131 9\/ circassiancenter.com.tr, 2003; Mehmet Ender Savc\u0131n. \u201cG\u00fcrcistan\u2019da akrabalar\u0131m\u0131z var\u201d, sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr, 11. X. 2020; Murat Karadeniz (Edit\u00f6r), Ahmet Hulusi K\u0131r\u0131m, Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u0130smail Avc\u0131, \u201cOgni Dergisini \u00c7\u0131karanlar Ogni S\u00fcrecini Anlat\u0131yor\u201d, 1, 2, 3 ve 4. b\u00f6l\u00fcmler; 14- 18. V. 2016, No\u011fa TV, youtube; Ogni Dergisi’nin mimarlar\u0131ndan Av. Ahmet Hacalo\u011flu K\u0131r\u0131m, dergi s\u00fcrecini bir ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7 noktas\u0131 olarak de\u011ferlendirdi\/ \u201c\u0130stim arkadan gelir\/ Kalabal\u0131k san\u0131yorlard\u0131”, lazuri.com; \u201cOgni Sustu Mu?\u201d, Ala\u015fara Dergisi, Say\u0131 3, Temmuz, Nart Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k, \u0130stanbul, 1995; \u201cMakale Ar\u015fivi\u201d, lazuri.com; \u201cTer\u00f6rle M\u00fccadele Kanunu, Kanun Numaras\u0131: 3713, Kabul Tarihi: 12\/04\/1991, Resmi Gazete Tarihi: 12\/04\/1991, Resmi Gazete Say\u0131s\u0131: 20843\u201d; Y\u0131lmaz Avc\u0131: \u201cTek Ses Olarak Muhatap Olamad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z M\u00fcddet\u00e7e Bizim Bu Sesleni\u015flerimiz Sadece \u00c7atlak Birer Ses Olarak Yank\u0131lan\u0131r!\u201d, lazca.org, 31.V. 2013]<\/p>\n