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Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz<\/strong><\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: <\/strong>L\u00fctfen, bize kendinizi tan\u0131t\u0131n! Ne i\u015f yap\u0131yorsunuz? Nerede ya\u015f\u0131yorsunuz?<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi: <\/strong>Ben \u0130zmit\u2019te do\u011fdum. Arhavi\/ Or\u00e7\u030ci- Suhuletli\u2019yim. \u015eimdi 23 ya\u015f\u0131mday\u0131m. \u0130mam- Hatip Lisesinde okudum. \u0130zmit\u2019te oturuyorum. \u00dc\u00e7 y\u0131l oldu belediyede \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum. Gassal\u2019\u0131m, yani \u00f6len insanlar\u0131 y\u0131k\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: <\/strong>Lazcaya b\u00fcy\u00fck ilginiz var. Lazcay\u0131 seviyorsunuz. Lazca sizin i\u00e7in neden \u00f6nemli?<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi: <\/strong>Evet, do\u011fru s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorsunuz, ben ana dilimizi, Lazcay\u0131 \u00e7ok seviyorum, hocam. Sizin kadar bilmiyorum \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc annem Laz de\u011fil. \u00d6yle- b\u00f6yle babaannemden \u00f6\u011frendim, idare ediyorum. Lazca neden benim i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli? \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc ana dilimiz. Bu dil kaybolunca biz de kayboluruz. Allah, bir ayetinde ne diyor? \u201cB\u00fct\u00fcn diller benimdir!\u201d Allah\u0131m\u0131z b\u00f6yle diyor. Ben ba\u015fka ne konu\u015fay\u0131m? \u00d6yle de\u011fil mi?!<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: <\/strong>Ben \u00e7ocukken, Lazca kitaplar yoktu. Lazca s\u00f6zl\u00fck yoktu. \u0130nternet yoktu. Babama sorup \u00f6\u011freniyordum\u2026<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi:<\/strong> Ben de sizin gibiydim, \u015fimdi de \u00f6yleyim. Anne ve babam ayr\u0131yd\u0131lar. Onun i\u00e7in ben \u0130zmit\u2019teydim, \u00f6yle b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fcm; yar\u0131 Arhavi\u2019de babaannemin yan\u0131nda b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fcm. K\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fc seviyorum. K\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fcn insanlar\u0131n\u0131 seviyorum. Ben de \u00e7ok soruyordum. \u201cBabaanne, buna ne diyorlar? Ona ne diyorlar?\u201d B\u00f6yle \u00f6\u011freniyordum, b\u00f6yle de \u00f6\u011freniyorum. Ben, k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fcz i\u00e7in her y\u0131l k\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fcze gidiyorum. B\u00fcy\u00fcklerime soruyorum, deftere notlar al\u0131yorum. Sonra Laz yazarlar\u0131n kitaplar\u0131n\u0131 okuyorum.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: <\/strong>Lazca d\u00fcnden g\u00fcne \u00f6l\u00fcyor. TRT, Lazca yay\u0131n yapm\u0131yor. Lazca art\u0131k Devlet okullar\u0131nda se\u00e7meli ders. Fakat ki\u015finin bu dile ilgisi yok. Bunun sebebine ili\u015fkin ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/p>\n \u00a0<\/strong>Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi: <\/strong>Bu durum yine bizim kabahatimiz. Dilimize ilgimiz yoksa bu b\u00fcy\u00fck bir kabahat ve g\u00fcnah. Bizim yazarlar\u0131m\u0131zda birlik ve beraberlik yok. Biri \u201clider benim,\u201d diyor, di\u011feri \u201clider benim,\u201d diyor. B\u00f6yle yap\u0131yorlar. Onlar b\u00f6yle yapt\u0131lar m\u0131, dilimiz de g\u00fcnden g\u00fcne \u00f6l\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: <\/strong>1999 y\u0131l\u0131ndan bug\u00fcne dokuz Lazca s\u00f6zl\u00fck yay\u0131nland\u0131. Yine de Lazca g\u00fcnden g\u00fcne \u00f6l\u00fcyor. Lazcay\u0131 ya\u015fatmak i\u00e7in neler yapmal\u0131?<\/p>\n \u00a0Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi:<\/strong> \u00d6nce Laz yazarlar, dernekler, platformlar k\u00fclt\u00fcrel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalarda el- ele vermeli. Neyse, o eski tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 b\u0131raks\u0131nlar. Oturacaklar konu\u015facaklar, o zaman bu i\u015f olur. \u00d6yle olunca Devlet sesimizi duyacak. Allah biliyor, ben b\u00f6yle biliyorum. Tabii, ana dili dersleri \u015fart.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: <\/strong>Bu k\u00fclt\u00fcrel konulara ili\u015fken ba\u015fka neler s\u00f6ylemek istersiniz?<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi:<\/strong> Her Laz \u00e7ocu\u011fu Lazca \u00f6\u011frensin. Fakat ana dili \u00f6nce evde \u00f6\u011frenecek. Belki size acayip gelir, ancak Laz o\u011flan Laz k\u0131z\u0131yla, Laz k\u0131z Laz o\u011flanla evlenecek Bu da \u00f6nemli. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00e7ocuk dili anneden \u00f6\u011frenir. Ben b\u00f6yle biliyorum<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz: <\/strong>Bu r\u00f6portaj i\u00e7in size te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim! Her zaman y\u00fcz\u00fcn\u00fcz g\u00fcls\u00fcn!<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi: <\/strong>Ben de size te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. G\u00f6\u011fe y\u00fckselin! Allah sizlere iyilik versin!<\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n [\u00d6nerilen okumalar<\/strong>: Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cD\u00fcnden Bug\u00fcne Lazca Gramer ve S\u00f6zl\u00fck \u00c7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131\u201d, sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr, 07. III. 2020; Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cKapsaml\u0131 Lazca- G\u00fcrc\u00fcce S\u00f6zl\u00fck Yay\u0131nland\u0131\u201d, sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr\/ gurcuhaber.com, 20. XI. 2021;\u00a0Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cYeni Lazca Bir S\u00f6zl\u00fck\u201d, sonhaber.ch, 25. I. 2025; \u00a0Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 K\u00fclt\u00fcr ve Sanat Komisyonu\u201d[Mustafa Kaz\u0131m Y\u00fccel \u00d6zbirinci, \u0130smail Muzaffer \u00d6zbay, Mehmet Ali K\u00f6k, Muhsin Erol, Erdin\u00e7 Y\u00fcz\u00fcnc\u00fco\u011flu, Metin Bilgin], \u201cArhavi A\u011fz\u0131 Lazca K\u0131lavuz S\u00f6zl\u00fck\u201d, Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 Yay\u0131n\u0131, \u00c7izgi Matbaac\u0131l\u0131k Ltd. \u015eti.,\u00a0 Ankara, 2008; Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 K\u00fclt\u00fcr ve Sanat Komisyonu\u201d[Mustafa Kaz\u0131m Y\u00fccel \u00d6zbirinci, \u0130smail Muzaffer \u00d6zbay, Mehmet Ali K\u00f6k, Muhsin Erol, Erdin\u00e7 Y\u00fcz\u00fcnc\u00fco\u011flu, Metin Bilgin], \u201cArhavi A\u011fz\u0131 Lazca Ana Yaz\u0131m K\u0131lavuzu\u201d, Arhavililer Vakf\u0131 Yay\u0131n\u0131, \u00c7izgi Matbaac\u0131l\u0131k Ltd. \u015eti.,\u00a0 Ankara, 2008; Aziz Turna, \u201cLaz Halk Sanat\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 Ya\u015far Turna\u201d, [Ali \u0130hsan Aksamaz, \u201cDil-Tarih-K\u00fclt\u00fcr-Gelenekleriyle Lazlar\u201d, 1. Bask\u0131, Sorun Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, 2000; 2. Bask\u0131, Belge Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, \u0130stanbul, 2014)]\/ circassiancenter.com.tr; G\u00fclcan Y\u00fcksel As\u0131lyaz\u0131c\u0131: \u201cD\u00f6rt Elle Lazca \u0130\u00e7in Sava\u015fan Biri Olup \u00c7\u0131kt\u0131m!\u201d, sonhaber.ch\/ gurcuhaber.com\/ circassiancenter.com.tr, 29. III. 2021; \u0130nci Derya Turna, \u201cAnadilimiz ve K\u00f6kl\u00fc G\u00fczel K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fcz Yok Olmas\u0131n!\u201d, circassiancenter.com.tr\/sonhaber.ch, 11. IX. 2019; K\u00e2mil Aksoylu, \u201cLaz K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc\u201d, Phoenix Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, Ankara, 2009; Kemal \u00d6zb\u0131y\u0131k:\u00a0 \u201cOlgun\u00a0 insanlar bir araya gelmezsek, dilimiz de \u00f6lecek!\u201d, sonhaber.ch, 16. IX. 2023; Kemal \u00d6zb\u0131y\u0131k: \u201cTam k\u0131rk y\u0131l oldu; b\u0131rakmad\u0131m\u201d, sonhaber.ch,19. IX. 2023;\u00a0 Kemal \u00d6zb\u0131y\u0131k: \u201cPayla\u015famad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ne var?!\u201d, sonhaber.ch, 25. IX. 2023;\u00a0 Murat Karadeniz: \u201cGazete No\u011fa\u2019y\u0131 tamamen Lazca yay\u0131nlad\u0131k!\u201d, sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr, 14. III. 2022; Orhan Bayramin: \u201cLaz Edebiyat\u0131 1996\u2019dan Fersah Fersah \u0130leride!\u201d, sonhaber.ch\/ gurcuhaber.com\/ circassiancenter.com.tr\/ simavakfi.org, 15. III. 2021; Osman \u015eafak B\u00fcy\u00fckl\u00fc: \u201cLazlar, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 kolektif ortam i\u00e7inde yapmal\u0131!\u201d, circassiancenter.com.tr\/ sonhaber.ch, 21. VIII. 2019; \u00d6nder Acar:\u00a0 \u201cO\u00e7am\u00e7ire\u2019deki Laz Okulu\u2019nda da \u00f6\u011frenim g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015f anneannem!\u201d, aliihsanaksamaz.blogspot.com\/ sonhaber.ch\/ circassiancenter.com.tr\/ gurcuhaber.com, 11. X. \u00a02019; Y\u0131lmaz Avc\u0131, \u201cTek Ses Olarak Muhatap Olamad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z M\u00fcddet\u00e7e Bizim Bu Sesleni\u015flerimiz Sadece \u00c7atlak Birer Ses Olarak Yank\u0131lan\u0131r!\u201d, lazca.org\/ circassiancenter.com.tr, 30. V. 2013]<\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u201cBerek nena nana\u015fen digurasen!\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n [Go\u0292\u0306otkvala: <\/strong>And\u011faneri musafiri \u00e7kimi Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi ren. Skidala mu\u015fi do Lazuri nena\u015fen b\u011far\u011falit.]<\/strong><\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: <\/strong>Ti tkvani domo\u00e7inapit, mu iqven! Oskidu \u015feni mu dulya ikipt? So skidut?<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi: <\/strong>Ma \u0130zmitiz dobibadi. Arabi\/ Or\u00e7\u030ci- Suxuleturi bore. Ha\u01efi (23) e\u00e7idosum \u01efaneri bore. \u0130mam- Xatipi\u015f Lises bi\u01e9itxi. \u0130zmitis bxer. Sum \u01efana divu, belediyez bi\u00e7ali\u015fam. Gassali bore, yani \u011fureyis xura bubonum.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: <\/strong>Lazuri nena\u015fa \u015furdoguriten xavesoba kogi\u011funan. Lazuri nenas qoropt. Lazuri nena tkvani \u015feni mot beciti ren?<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi: <\/strong>Ho, isa zop\u030con, ma nananena \u00e7kunis, Lazuris dido p\u030corom, Xoca \u00e7kimi. Ama he\u015fo tkvanisteyi vami\u00e7kin, \u00e7unki nana\u00e7kimi Lazi varen, He\u015fo- ha\u015fo Nandidi \u00e7kimi\u015fen kodobiguyi do idare bikom. Lazuri \u00e7kimi \u015feni mod beciti ren? \u00c7unki nananena \u00e7kuni ren. Ham nena gondunu\u015fkule \u00e7kuti gomdunes. \u011eormoti \u00e7kunik ar Ayet\u0306is mu zop\u030cons? \u201cMteli nenape \u00e7kimi yen!\u201d \u011eormoti \u00e7kunik ha\u015fo zop\u030cons. A\u00e7kva ma mu doptkva? He\u015fo vareni?!<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: <\/strong>Ma bere vort\u0306i\u015fi, Lazuri ketabepe vart\u0306u. Lazuri zit\u0306apuna vart\u0306u. \u0130nt\u0306ernet\u0306i vart\u0306u. Baba \u00e7kimis p\u0306k\u0306itxupt\u0306i do e\u015fo dovigurapt\u0306i.<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi:<\/strong> Mati tkvani steyi bort\u0306i, ha\u01efiti he\u015fo bore. Nana do baba \u00e7kimi gama\u01e9ateri t\u0306u. Hemu\u015feni gverdi \u0130zmitis bort\u0306i, he\u015fo birdi; gverdi Arkabis nandidi \u00e7kimi \u01e9ala birdi. Oput\u0306e \u00e7kimis dido p\u030corom. Oput\u0306e\u015fi \u01e9o\u00e7epesti dido p\u030corom. Mati dido p\u030c\u01e9itxupt\u0306i. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u201cNandidi, hayas mu u\u01efumenan, heyas mu u\u01efumenan?\u201d Ha\u015fo ha\u015fo dobiguramt\u0306i, he\u015foti dobiguram. Ma \u01e9ult\u0306uri \u00e7kuni \u015feni \u01e9ata \u01efanas oput\u0306e \u00e7kimi\u015fa mebulur. Didilepe \u00e7kimis dido p\u030c\u01e9itxum, defteris not\u0306epe p\u030c\u00e7\u030carum. O\u01e9a\u00e7xe Lazi ma\u00e7\u030caralepe\u015fi svarape bi\u01e9itxam.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: <\/strong>Lazuri nena nd\u011fa\u015fen nd\u011fa\u015fa \u011furun. TRT\u0306-k Lazuri va \u00e7\u0306andinaps. A\u00e7kva Lazuri nenati Devleti\u015fi n\u0292\u0306opulapes meno\u0292xune dersi ren. Hama didos toli va u\u011fun am dersepe\u015fa. Emu\u015fi sebebi mu ren, tkvan mu izmont?<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi: <\/strong>Heya xolo \u00e7kuni \u01e9abaet\u0306i ren. Nena \u00e7kuni\u015fa xavesi va mi\u011funanna, haya didi \u01e9abaet\u0306i do gyunaxi ren. \u00c7kuni Lazi ma\u00e7\u030caralepes artoba do cumaloba var u\u011funan. Arik \u201cum\u00e7ane ma bore\u201d- ya tkumers, majura \u201cum\u00e7ane ma bore\u201d-ya tkumers. Hemtepek ha\u015fo ikoman. Hemtepek ha\u015fo dovesi, nena \u00e7kuni nd\u011fa\u015fen nd\u011fa\u015fe \u011furun.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: (<\/strong>1999) vit\u0306on\u00e7xoroo\u015fdootxone\u00e7idovit\u0306osum \u0292\u0306ana\u015fen and\u011fa\u015fa \u00e7xoro Lazuri zit\u0306apuna kagamaxtu. Xoloti Lazuri nd\u011fa\u015fen nd\u011fa\u015fa \u011furun. Lazuri nena\u015fi oskedinu \u015feni muepe oxvenoni ren?<\/p>\n \u00a0Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi:<\/strong> \u0130pti Lazi m\u00e7\u030caralepe, derne\u011fepe, p\u030clat\u0306formepek \u01e9ult\u0306uruli no\u00e7ali\u015fepe xes xe me\u00e7ameri van. Murenna, mcve nizape na\u015fkvan. Doxedanoren do isinapanoren, emindos haya dulya iven. Hemindos artoba do cumaloba iven. Ha\u015fo ivasi, Devletik \u00e7kuni sersiti ognasen. Ma ha\u015fo mi\u00e7kin, Allahis ku\u00e7kin. Moro, mektebis nananena\u015fi dersepeti \u015fart\u0306i ren.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: <\/strong>Am k\u0306ult\u0306uruli no\u00e7ali\u015fepe\u015fi mevzu\u015fen \u00e7kva mutu otkvalu ginonani?<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi:<\/strong> \u01e8ata Lazi berek nananena diguyas. Ama nananena do \u01e9ult\u0306uri ipti oxoyis diguyasen. Beki acayibi gavan ama Lazi bi\u00e7\u030ci Lazi bozo \u01e9ala i\u00e7ilasen,\u00a0 Lazi bozo Lazi bi\u00e7\u030ci \u01e9ala ikomocasen. Hayati beciti ren. \u00c7unki berek nana nana\u015fen digurams. Ma a\u015fo komi\u00e7kin.<\/p>\n Ali \u0130hsan Aksamazi: <\/strong>Am rop\u0306ort\u0306aji \u015feni \u015fukuri go\u011fodapt. P\u0306anda ixelit!<\/p>\n Muhammed Pa\u015fa\u015fi: <\/strong>Mati si dido \u015fukuyi go\u011fodam. N\u0292a\u015fa extit! \u011eormotik \u01e9aoba mek\u00e7an!<\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n \u201c<\/strong>\u10d1\u10d4\u10e0\u10d4\u10e5<\/strong> \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0<\/strong> \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0\u10e8\u10d4\u10dc<\/strong> \u10d3\u10d8\u10d2\u10e3\u10e0\u10d0\u10e1\u10d4\u10dc<\/strong>!\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n [<\/strong>\u10d2\u10dd\u10ec\u10dd\u10d7\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0\u10da\u10d0<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10d0\u10dc\u10d3\u10e6\u10d0\u10dc\u10d4\u10e0\u10d8 \u10db\u10e3\u10e1\u10d0\u10f6\u10d8\u10e0\u10d8 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8 \u10db\u10e3\u10f0\u10d0\u10db\u10db\u10d4\u10d3 \u10e4\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0\u10e8\u10d8 \u10e0\u10d4\u10dc. \u10e1\u10e5\u10d8\u10d3\u10d0\u10da\u10d0 \u10db\u10e3\u10e8\u10d8 \u10d3\u10dd \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0\u10e8\u10d4\u10dc \u10d1\u10e6\u10d0\u10e0\u10e6\u10d0\u10da\u10d8\u10d7.]<\/strong><\/p>\n \u10d0\u10da\u10d8 \u10d8\u10f0\u10e1\u10d0\u10dc \u10d0\u10e5\u10e1\u10d0\u10db\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10d7\u10d8 \u10d7\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0\u10dc\u10d8 \u10d3\u10dd\u10db\u10dd\u10e9\u10d8\u10dc\u10d0\u10e4\u10d8\u10d7, \u10db\u10e3 \u10d8\u10e7\u10d5\u10d4\u10dc! \u10dd\u10e1\u10e5\u10d8\u10d3\u10e3 \u10e8\u10d4\u10dc\u10d8 \u10db\u10e3 \u10d3\u10e3\u10da\u10f2\u10d0 \u10d8\u10e5\u10d8\u10e4\u10d7? \u10e1\u10dd \u10e1\u10e5\u10d8\u10d3\u10e3\u10d7?<\/p>\n \u10db\u10e3\u10f0\u10d0\u10db\u10db\u10d4\u10d3<\/strong> \u10e4\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0\u10e8\u10d8<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10db\u10d0 \u10d8\u10d6\u10db\u10d8\u10d7\u10d8\u10d6 \u10d3\u10dd\u10d1\u10d8\u10d1\u10d0\u10d3\u10d8. \u10d0\u10e0\u10e5\u10d0\u10d1\u10d8\/ \u10dd\u10e0\u10ed\u10d8- \u10e1\u10e3\u10ee\u10e3\u10da\u10d4\u10d7\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10d1\u10dd\u10e0\u10d4. \u10f0\u10d0\u10ec\u10d8 (23) \u10d4\u10e9\u10d8\u10d3\u10dd\u10e1\u10e3\u10db \u10ec\u10d0\u10dc\u10d4\u10e0\u10d8 \u10d1\u10dd\u10e0\u10d4. \u10d8\u10db\u10d0\u10db- \u10ee\u10d0\u10d7\u10d8\u10e4\u10d8\u10e8 \u10da\u10d8\u10e1\u10d4\u10e1 \u10d1\u10d8\u10d9\u10d8\u10d7\u10ee\u10d8. \u10d8\u10d6\u10db\u10d8\u10d7\u10d8\u10e1 \u10d1\u10ee\u10d4\u10e0. \u10e1\u10e3\u10db \u10ec\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d5\u10e3, \u10d1\u10d4\u10da\u10d4\u10d3\u10d8\u10f2\u10d4\u10d6 \u10d1\u10d8\u10e9\u10d0\u10da\u10d8\u10e8\u10d0\u10db. \u10d2\u10d0\u10e1\u10e1\u10d0\u10da\u10d8 \u10d1\u10dd\u10e0\u10d4, \u10f2\u10d0\u10dc\u10d8 \u10e6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d4\u10f2\u10d8\u10e1 \u10ee\u10e3\u10e0\u10d0 \u10d1\u10e3\u10d1\u10dd\u10dc\u10e3\u10db.<\/p>\n \u10d0\u10da\u10d8 \u10d8\u10f0\u10e1\u10d0\u10dc \u10d0\u10e5\u10e1\u10d0\u10db\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0 \u10e8\u10e3\u10e0\u10d3\u10dd\u10d2\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8\u10d7\u10d4\u10dc \u10ee\u10d0\u10d5\u10d4\u10e1\u10dd\u10d1\u10d0 \u10e5\u10dd\u10d2\u10d8\u10e6\u10e3\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc. \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0\u10e1 \u10e7\u10dd\u10e0\u10dd\u10e4\u10d7. \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0 \u10d7\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0\u10dc\u10d8 \u10e8\u10d4\u10dc\u10d8 \u10db\u10dd\u10d7 \u10d1\u10d4\u10ef\u10d8\u10d7\u10d8 \u10e0\u10d4\u10dc?<\/p>\n \u10db\u10e3\u10f0\u10d0\u10db\u10db\u10d4\u10d3<\/strong> \u10e4\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0\u10e8\u10d8<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10f0\u10dd, \u10d8\u10e1\u10d0 \u10d6\u10dd\u10de\u10dd\u10dc, \u10db\u10d0 \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0 \u10e9\u10e5\u10e3\u10dc\u10d8\u10e1, \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8\u10e1 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10dd \u10de\u10dd\u10e0\u10dd\u10db, \u10ee\u10dd\u10ef\u10d0 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8. \u10d0\u10db\u10d0 \u10f0\u10d4\u10e8\u10dd \u10d7\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0\u10dc\u10d8\u10e1\u10d7\u10d4\u10f2\u10d8 \u10d5\u10d0\u10db\u10d8\u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10dc, \u10e9\u10e3\u10dc\u10e5\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0\u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8 \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8 \u10d5\u10d0\u10e0\u10d4\u10dc, \u10f0\u10d4\u10e8\u10dd- \u10f0\u10d0\u10e8\u10dd \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10d8 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8\u10e8\u10d4\u10dc \u10e5\u10dd\u10d3\u10dd\u10d1\u10d8\u10d2\u10e3\u10f2\u10d8 \u10d3\u10dd \u10d8\u10d3\u10d0\u10e0\u10d4 \u10d1\u10d8\u10e5\u10dd\u10db. \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8 \u10e8\u10d4\u10dc\u10d8 \u10db\u10dd\u10d3 \u10d1\u10d4\u10ef\u10d8\u10d7\u10d8 \u10e0\u10d4\u10dc? \u10e9\u10e3\u10dc\u10e5\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0 \u10e9\u10e5\u10e3\u10dc\u10d8 \u10e0\u10d4\u10dc. \u10f0\u10d0\u10db \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0 \u10d2\u10dd\u10dc\u10d3\u10e3\u10dc\u10e3\u10e8\u10e5\u10e3\u10da\u10d4 \u10e9\u10e5\u10e3\u10d7\u10d8 \u10d2\u10dd\u10db\u10d3\u10e3\u10dc\u10d4\u10e1. \u10e6\u10dd\u10e0\u10db\u10dd\u10d7\u10d8 \u10e9\u10e5\u10e3\u10dc\u10d8\u10e5 \u10d0\u10e0 \u10d0\u10f2\u10d4\u10e2\u10d8\u10e1 \u10db\u10e3 \u10d6\u10dd\u10de\u10dd\u10dc\u10e1? \u201c\u10db\u10d7\u10d4\u10da\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0\u10e4\u10d4 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8 \u10f2\u10d4\u10dc!\u201d \u10e6\u10dd\u10e0\u10db\u10dd\u10d7\u10d8 \u10e9\u10e5\u10e3\u10dc\u10d8\u10e5 \u10f0\u10d0\u10e8\u10dd \u10d6\u10dd\u10de\u10dd\u10dc\u10e1. \u10d0\u10e9\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0 \u10db\u10d0 \u10db\u10e3 \u10d3\u10dd\u10e4\u10d7\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0? \u10f0\u10d4\u10e8\u10dd \u10d5\u10d0\u10e0\u10d4\u10dc\u10d8?!<\/p>\n \u10d0\u10da\u10d8 \u10d8\u10f0\u10e1\u10d0\u10dc \u10d0\u10e5\u10e1\u10d0\u10db\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10db\u10d0 \u10d1\u10d4\u10e0\u10d4 \u10d5\u10dd\u10e0\u10e2\u10d8\u10e8\u10d8, \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10e5\u10d4\u10d7\u10d0\u10d1\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4 \u10d5\u10d0\u10e0\u10e2\u10e3. \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10d6\u10d8\u10e2\u10d0\u10e4\u10e3\u10dc\u10d0 \u10d5\u10d0\u10e0\u10e2\u10e3. \u10d8\u10dc\u10e2\u10d4\u10e0\u10dc\u10d4\u10e2\u10d8 \u10d5\u10d0\u10e0\u10e2\u10e3. \u10d1\u10d0\u10d1\u10d0 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8\u10e1 \u10de\u10d9\u10d8\u10d7\u10ee\u10e3\u10e4\u10e2\u10d8 \u10d3\u10dd \u10d4\u10e8\u10dd \u10d3\u10dd\u10d5\u10d8\u10d2\u10e3\u10e0\u10d0\u10e4\u10e2\u10d8.<\/p>\n \u10db\u10e3\u10f0\u10d0\u10db\u10db\u10d4\u10d3<\/strong> \u10e4\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0\u10e8\u10d8<\/strong>:<\/strong> \u10db\u10d0\u10d7\u10d8 \u10d7\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0\u10dc\u10d8 \u10e1\u10d7\u10d4\u10f2\u10d8 \u10d1\u10dd\u10e0\u10e2\u10d8, \u10f0\u10d0\u10ec\u10d8\u10d7\u10d8 \u10f0\u10d4\u10e8\u10dd \u10d1\u10dd\u10e0\u10d4. \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0 \u10d3\u10dd \u10d1\u10d0\u10d1\u10d0 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8 \u10d2\u10d0\u10db\u10d0\u10d9\u10d0\u10d7\u10d4\u10e0\u10d8 \u10e2\u10e3. \u10f0\u10d4\u10db\u10e3\u10e8\u10d4\u10dc\u10d8 \u10d2\u10d5\u10d4\u10e0\u10d3\u10d8 \u10d8\u10d6\u10db\u10d8\u10d7\u10d8\u10e1 \u10d1\u10dd\u10e0\u10e2\u10d8, \u10f0\u10d4\u10e8\u10dd \u10d1\u10d8\u10e0\u10d3\u10d8; \u10d2\u10d5\u10d4\u10e0\u10d3\u10d8 \u10d0\u10e0\u10e5\u10d0\u10d1\u10d8\u10e1 \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10d8 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8 \u10d9\u10d0\u10da\u10d0 \u10d1\u10d8\u10e0\u10d3\u10d8. \u10dd\u10e4\u10e3\u10e2\u10d4 \u10e9\u10e5\u10e3\u10db\u10d8\u10e1 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10dd \u10de\u10dd\u10e0\u10dd\u10db. \u10dd\u10e4\u10e3\u10e2\u10d4\u10e8\u10d8 \u10d9\u10dd\u10e9\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4\u10e1\u10d7\u10d8 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10dd \u10de\u10dd\u10e0\u10dd\u10db. \u10db\u10d0\u10d7\u10d8 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10dd \u10de\u10d9\u10d8\u10d7\u10ee\u10e3\u10e4\u10e2\u10d8. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u201c\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10d8, \u10f0\u10d0\u10f2\u10d0\u10e1 \u10db\u10e3 \u10e3\u10ec\u10e3\u10db\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc, \u10f0\u10d4\u10f2\u10d0\u10e1 \u10db\u10e3 \u10e3\u10ec\u10e3\u10db\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc?\u201d \u10f0\u10d0\u10e8\u10dd- \u10f0\u10d0\u10e8\u10dd \u10d3\u10dd\u10d1\u10d8\u10d2\u10e3\u10e0\u10d0\u10db\u10e2\u10d8, \u10f0\u10d4\u10e8\u10dd\u10d7\u10d8 \u10d3\u10dd\u10d1\u10d8\u10d2\u10e3\u10e0\u10d0\u10db. \u10db\u10d0 \u10d9\u10e3\u10da\u10e2\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10e9\u10e5\u10e3\u10dc\u10d8 \u10e8\u10d4\u10dc\u10d8 \u10d9\u10d0\u10d7\u10d0 \u10ec\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0\u10e1 \u10dd\u10e4\u10e3\u10e2\u10d4 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8\u10e8\u10d0 \u10db\u10d4\u10d1\u10e3\u10da\u10e3\u10e0. \u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10d8\u10da\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4 \u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10db\u10d8\u10e1 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10dd \u10de\u10d9\u10d8\u10d7\u10ee\u10e3\u10db, \u10d3\u10d4\u10f6\u10d7\u10d4\u10e0\u10d8\u10e1 \u10dc\u10dd\u10e2\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4 \u10de\u10ed\u10d0\u10e0\u10e3\u10db. \u10dd\u10d9\u10d0\u10e9\u10ee\u10d4 \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8 \u10db\u10d0\u10ed\u10d0\u10e0\u10d0\u10da\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4\u10e8\u10d8 \u10e1\u10d5\u10d0\u10e0\u10d0\u10e4\u10d4 \u10d1\u10d8\u10d9\u10d8\u10d7\u10ee\u10d0\u10db.<\/p>\n \u10d0\u10da\u10d8 \u10d8\u10f0\u10e1\u10d0\u10dc \u10d0\u10e5\u10e1\u10d0\u10db\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0 \u10dc\u10d3\u10e6\u10d0\u10e8\u10d4\u10dc \u10dc\u10d3\u10e6\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0 \u10e6\u10e3\u10e0\u10e3\u10dc. \u10d7\u10e0\u10e2-\u10e5 \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10d5\u10d0 \u10ed\u10d0\u10dc\u10d3\u10d8\u10dc\u10d0\u10e4\u10e1. \u10d0\u10e9\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0 \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0\u10d7\u10d8 \u10d3\u10d4\u10d5\u10da\u10d4\u10d7\u10d8\u10e8\u10d8 \u10dc\u10ec\u10dd\u10e4\u10e3\u10da\u10d0\u10e4\u10d4\u10e1 \u10db\u10d4\u10dc\u10dd\u10ea\u10ee\u10e3\u10dc\u10d4 \u10d3\u10d4\u10e0\u10e1\u10d8 \u10e0\u10d4\u10dc. \u10f0\u10d0\u10db\u10d0 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10dd\u10e1 \u10d7\u10dd\u10da\u10d8 \u10d5\u10d0 \u10e3\u10e6\u10e3\u10dc \u10d0\u10db \u10d3\u10d4\u10e0\u10e1\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4\u10e8\u10d0. \u10d4\u10db\u10e3\u10e8\u10d8 \u10e1\u10d4\u10d1\u10d4\u10d1\u10d8 \u10db\u10e3 \u10e0\u10d4\u10dc, \u10d7\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0\u10dc \u10db\u10e3 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\u201c\u10e3\u10db\u10e9\u10d0\u10dc\u10d4 \u10db\u10d0 \u10d1\u10dd\u10e0\u10d4\u201d- \u10f2\u10d0 \u10d7\u10e5\u10e3\u10db\u10d4\u10e0\u10e1, \u10db\u10d0\u10df\u10e3\u10e0\u10d0 \u201c\u10e3\u10db\u10e9\u10d0\u10dc\u10d4 \u10db\u10d0 \u10d1\u10dd\u10e0\u10d4\u201d-\u10f2\u10d0 \u10d7\u10e5\u10e3\u10db\u10d4\u10e0\u10e1. \u10f0\u10d4\u10db\u10d7\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4\u10e5 \u10f0\u10d0\u10e8\u10dd \u10d8\u10e5\u10dd\u10db\u10d0\u10dc. \u10f0\u10d4\u10db\u10d7\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4\u10e5 \u10f0\u10d0\u10e8\u10dd \u10d3\u10dd\u10d5\u10d4\u10e1\u10d8, \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0 \u10e9\u10e5\u10e3\u10dc\u10d8 \u10dc\u10d3\u10e6\u10d0\u10e8\u10d4\u10dc \u10dc\u10d3\u10e6\u10d0\u10e8\u10d4 \u10e6\u10e3\u10e0\u10e3\u10dc.<\/p>\n \u10d0\u10da\u10d8 \u10d8\u10f0\u10e1\u10d0\u10dc \u10d0\u10e5\u10e1\u10d0\u10db\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8<\/strong>: (<\/strong>1999) 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\u10e4\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0\u10e8\u10d8<\/strong>:<\/strong> \u10d8\u10e4\u10d7\u10d8 \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8 \u10db\u10ed\u10d0\u10e0\u10d0\u10da\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4, \u10d3\u10d4\u10e0\u10dc\u10d4\u10e6\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4, \u10de\u10da\u10d0\u10e2\u10f6\u10dd\u10e0\u10db\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4\u10e5 \u10d9\u10e3\u10da\u10e2\u10e3\u10e0\u10e3\u10da\u10d8 \u10dc\u10dd\u10e9\u10d0\u10da\u10d8\u10e8\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4 \u10ee\u10d4\u10e1 \u10ee\u10d4 \u10db\u10d4\u10e9\u10d0\u10db\u10d4\u10e0\u10d8 \u10d5\u10d0\u10dc. \u10db\u10e3\u10e0\u10d4\u10dc\u10dc\u10d0, \u10db\u10ef\u10d5\u10d4 \u10dc\u10d8\u10d6\u10d0\u10e4\u10d4 \u10dc\u10d0\u10e8\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0\u10dc. \u10d3\u10dd\u10ee\u10d4\u10d3\u10d0\u10dc\u10dd\u10e0\u10d4\u10dc \u10d3\u10dd \u10d8\u10e1\u10d8\u10dc\u10d0\u10e4\u10d0\u10dc\u10dd\u10e0\u10d4\u10dc, \u10d4\u10db\u10d8\u10dc\u10d3\u10dd\u10e1 \u10f0\u10d0\u10f2\u10d0 \u10d3\u10e3\u10da\u10f2\u10d0 \u10d8\u10d5\u10d4\u10dc. \u10f0\u10d4\u10db\u10d8\u10dc\u10d3\u10dd\u10e1 \u10d0\u10e0\u10d7\u10dd\u10d1\u10d0 \u10d3\u10dd \u10ef\u10e3\u10db\u10d0\u10da\u10dd\u10d1\u10d0 \u10d8\u10d5\u10d4\u10dc. \u10f0\u10d0\u10e8\u10dd \u10d8\u10d5\u10d0\u10e1\u10d8, \u10d3\u10d4\u10d5\u10da\u10d4\u10d7\u10d8\u10e5 \u10e9\u10e5\u10e3\u10dc\u10d8 \u10e1\u10d4\u10e0\u10e1\u10d8\u10d7\u10d8 \u10dd\u10d2\u10dc\u10d0\u10e1\u10d4\u10dc. \u10db\u10d0 \u10f0\u10d0\u10e8\u10dd \u10db\u10d8\u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10dc, \u10d0\u10da\u10da\u10d0\u10f0\u10d8\u10e1 \u10e5\u10e3\u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10dc. \u10db\u10dd\u10e0\u10dd, \u10db\u10d4\u10e5\u10d7\u10d4\u10d1\u10d8\u10e1 \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0\u10e8\u10d8 \u10d3\u10d4\u10e0\u10e1\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4\u10d7\u10d8 \u10e8\u10d0\u10e0\u10e2\u10d8 \u10e0\u10d4\u10dc.<\/p>\n \u10d0\u10da\u10d8 \u10d8\u10f0\u10e1\u10d0\u10dc \u10d0\u10e5\u10e1\u10d0\u10db\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10d0\u10db \u10d9\u10e3\u10da\u10e2\u10e3\u10e0\u10e3\u10da\u10d8 \u10dc\u10dd\u10e9\u10d0\u10da\u10d8\u10e8\u10d4\u10e4\u10d4\u10e8\u10d8 \u10db\u10d4\u10d5\u10d6\u10e3\u10e8\u10d4\u10dc \u10e9\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0 \u10db\u10e3\u10d7\u10e3 \u10dd\u10d7\u10e5\u10d5\u10d0\u10da\u10e3 \u10d2\u10d8\u10dc\u10dd\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d8?<\/p>\n \u10db\u10e3\u10f0\u10d0\u10db\u10db\u10d4\u10d3<\/strong> \u10e4\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0\u10e8\u10d8<\/strong>:<\/strong> \u10d9\u10d0\u10d7\u10d0 \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8 \u10d1\u10d4\u10e0\u10d4\u10e5 \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d2\u10e3\u10f2\u10d0\u10e1. \u10d0\u10db\u10d0 \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0 \u10d3\u10dd \u10d9\u10e3\u10da\u10e2\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10d8\u10e4\u10d7\u10d8 \u10dd\u10ee\u10dd\u10f2\u10d8\u10e1 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d2\u10e3\u10f2\u10d0\u10e1\u10d4\u10dc. \u10d1\u10d4\u10e5\u10d8 \u10d0\u10ef\u10d0\u10f2\u10d8\u10d1\u10d8 \u10d2\u10d0\u10d5\u10d0\u10dc \u10d0\u10db\u10d0 \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8 \u10d1\u10d8\u10ed\u10d8 \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8 \u10d1\u10dd\u10d6\u10dd \u10d9\u10d0\u10da\u10d0 \u10d8\u10e9\u10d8\u10da\u10d0\u10e1\u10d4\u10dc,\u00a0 \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8 \u10d1\u10dd\u10d6\u10dd \u10da\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8 \u10d1\u10d8\u10ed\u10d8 \u10d9\u10d0\u10da\u10d0 \u10d8\u10e5\u10dd\u10db\u10dd\u10ef\u10d0\u10e1\u10d4\u10dc. \u10f0\u10d0\u10f2\u10d0\u10d7\u10d8 \u10d1\u10d4\u10ef\u10d8\u10d7\u10d8 \u10e0\u10d4\u10dc. \u10e9\u10e3\u10dc\u10e5\u10d8 \u10d1\u10d4\u10e0\u10d4\u10e5 \u10dc\u10d4\u10dc\u10d0 \u10dc\u10d0\u10dc\u10d0\u10e8\u10d4\u10dc \u10d3\u10d8\u10d2\u10e3\u10e0\u10d0\u10e1\u10d4\u10dc. \u10db\u10d0 \u10d0\u10e8\u10dd \u10e5\u10dd\u10db\u10d8\u10e9\u10e5\u10d8\u10dc.<\/p>\n \u10d0\u10da\u10d8 \u10d8\u10f0\u10e1\u10d0\u10dc \u10d0\u10e5\u10e1\u10d0\u10db\u10d0\u10d6\u10d8<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10d0\u10db \u10e0\u10dd\u10de\u10dd\u10e0\u10e2\u10d0\u10df\u10d8 \u10e8\u10d4\u10dc\u10d8 \u10e8\u10e3\u10e5\u10e3\u10e0\u10d8 \u10d2\u10dd\u10e6\u10dd\u10d3\u10d0\u10e4\u10d7. \u10de\u10d0\u10dc\u10d3\u10d0 \u10d8\u10ee\u10d4\u10da\u10d8\u10d7!<\/p>\n \u10db\u10e3\u10f0\u10d0\u10db\u10db\u10d4\u10d3<\/strong> \u10e4\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0\u10e8\u10d8<\/strong>: <\/strong>\u10db\u10d0\u10d7\u10d8 \u10e1\u10d8 \u10d3\u10d8\u10d3\u10dd \u10e8\u10e3\u10e5\u10e3\u10f2\u10d8 \u10d2\u10dd\u10e6\u10dd\u10d3\u10d0\u10db. \u10dc\u10ea\u10d0\u10e8\u10d0 \u10d4\u10ee\u10d7\u10d8\u10d7! \u10e6\u10dd\u10e0\u10db\u10dd\u10d7\u10d8\u10e5 \u10d9\u10d0\u10dd\u10d1\u10d0 \u10db\u10d4\u10e5\u10e9\u10d0\u10dc!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Ali İhsan Aksamaz Ali İhsan Aksamaz: Lütfen, bize kendinizi tanıtın! Ne iş yapıyorsunuz? Nerede yaşıyorsunuz? Muhammed Paşaşi: Ben İzmit’te doğdum. Arhavi\/ Orç̌i- Suhuletli’yim. Şimdi 23 yaşımdayım. İmam- Hatip Lisesinde okudum. İzmit’te oturuyorum. Üç yıl oldu belediyede çalışıyorum. Gassal’ım, yani ölen insanları yıkıyorum. Ali İhsan Aksamaz: Lazcaya büyük ilginiz var. Lazcayı seviyorsunuz. Lazca sizin için neden 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