{"id":5586,"date":"2021-08-30T00:16:31","date_gmt":"2021-08-30T05:16:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/?p=5586"},"modified":"2021-08-31T15:44:31","modified_gmt":"2021-08-31T20:44:31","slug":"bir-sambo-ustasi-hapae-arambiy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/bir-sambo-ustasi-hapae-arambiy\/","title":{"rendered":"B\u0130R SAMBO USTASI: HAPAE ARAMB\u0130Y"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-20965\" src=\"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/BIR-SAMBO-USTASI-HAPAE-ARAMBIY-b.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"571\" height=\"297\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/BIR-SAMBO-USTASI-HAPAE-ARAMBIY-b.png 571w, https:\/\/www.circassiancenter.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/BIR-SAMBO-USTASI-HAPAE-ARAMBIY-b-300x156.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 571px) 100vw, 571px\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><b> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chechnyafree.ru\/index.php?lng=eng&amp;section=sportsmeneng&amp;row=9\"> <span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">\u00c7ETAO Nadir Ya\u011fan<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/b> <span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"> Maykop, 31 Ocak 2009<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Adigey\u2019deki Te\u011foyhable k\u00f6y\u00fcnde do\u011fdum. K\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fcz Adigey\u2019in en k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck ama ismi \u00e7ok eskilere dayanan k\u00f6ylerinden biridir.<\/p>\n<p><strong> \u00c7ETAO Nadir Ya\u011fan: Adige diasporas\u0131n\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131yla ilgili \u00a0neler d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>HAPAE Arambiy: <\/strong>K\u00f6yden \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131mda soyda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n Rus-Kafkas sava\u015flar\u0131 sonucunda \u00c7ar taraf\u0131ndan topraklar\u0131ndan s\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc ger\u00e7e\u011fiyle tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. O g\u00fcn bug\u00fcnd\u00fcr Adige halk\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131na gelenler beni \u00fcz\u00fcyor. \u00c7ar\u2019\u0131n yapt\u0131klar\u0131na ilgisiz kalmad\u0131m. Bu i\u015flerle o zaman bu zamand\u0131r yani k\u00f6y\u00fcmden \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131mdan beri ilgiliyim. \u00a0Abzegh, Shapsugh, Meho\u015f, Jane, Natukuay b\u00f6lgelerinde hi\u00e7 Adige kalmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na \u00e7ok \u00fcz\u00fcl\u00fcyorum. En \u00e7ok kaybolanlar onlar. Halk\u0131n k\u00f6klerinin s\u00f6k\u00fclm\u00fc\u015f, k\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131 \u00e7ok ac\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><strong> \u00c7ETAO Nadir Ya\u011fan: Adigeler bundan sonra ne yapmal\u0131lar? Anavatana geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f sizce m\u00fcmk\u00fcn m\u00fcd\u00fcr?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>HAPAE Arambiy:<\/strong> Biz toplum olarak istersek geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirebiliriz. Yaln\u0131z ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131zdaki devlet y\u00f6neticileri bizi bu konuda bazen umutland\u0131r\u0131yorlar bazen de \u201chi\u00e7 mi bir araya gelemeyece\u011fiz\u201d diye umudumuz k\u0131r\u0131l\u0131yor. B\u00f6yle ikircikliyiz. Atalar\u0131 buradan \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f insanlar\u0131n geri d\u00f6nmesi i\u00e7in buradakilerin \u00e7aba g\u00f6stermeleri gerekti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n<p>G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde insanlar d\u00fcnyan\u0131n d\u00f6rt bir taraf\u0131na gidip yerle\u015fiyorlar insan her yerde ya\u015fayabilir ama kendi anavatan\u0131na ba\u011fl\u0131 kalmal\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p>Tarihte ana vatana geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn \u00f6rnekleri var. \u00d6rne\u011fin Yahudiler de topraklar\u0131ndan s\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fcler, uzun y\u0131llar ba\u015fka topraklarda ya\u015fad\u0131lar, \u00e7ok zorlu yollardan ge\u00e7erek de olsa sonunda kendi vatanlar\u0131na kavu\u015ftular. Hi\u00e7bir devlet olmayan bir yere devlet kurdular. Bug\u00fcn d\u00fcnyan\u0131n neresinde ya\u015f\u0131yor olurlarsa olsunlar vatanlar\u0131na bakmaktalar, oran\u0131n kayg\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131maktalar. Y\u00f6nleri o tarafa \u00e7evrili. Ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 yerlerde ba\u015flar\u0131na bir \u015fey geldi\u011finde anavatanlar\u0131n\u0131n kendilerini koruyaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorlar. G\u00fcvendikleri bir yer var.<\/p>\n<p>Benzetmek de istemem ama \u00f6rnek olmas\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum. Bizim ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131za Yahudilerinki kadar b\u00fcy\u00fck bir felaket gelmedi. S\u00fcrg\u00fcn ya\u015fad\u0131ksa da bir k\u0131sm\u0131m\u0131z burada kalabildi. \u00d6yle ya da b\u00f6yle birka\u00e7 cumhuriyette de olsa Kuzey Kafkasya\u2019da bug\u00fcn yakla\u015f\u0131k 750 bin Adige oluyoruz. Bu insanlar bir milletin insanlar\u0131d\u0131r. Durum b\u00f6yle olunca vatan\u0131m\u0131zda varl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcrebilmemiz i\u00e7in \u015fans\u0131m\u0131z oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Bir g\u00fcn mutlaka bir olmal\u0131y\u0131z. Geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn olabilir k\u00f6kleri var. D\u0131\u015far\u0131dakilerin buraya gelmesi \u00fctopik bir \u015fey de\u011fildir.<\/p>\n<p>Akl\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 kullan\u0131rsak cumhuriyetlerimizde bizimle birlikte ya\u015fayan di\u011fer halklarla da birlikte bar\u0131\u015f i\u00e7inde ya\u015fayabiliriz.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5587\" src=\"http:\/\/circassiancenter.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/BiR-SAMBO-USTASI-HAPAE-ARAMBiY.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"227\" height=\"353\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong> \u00c7ETAO Nadir Ya\u011fan: <\/strong>Diasporadan gelen Adigeler sizce Adigey\u2019e kolay uyum sa\u011flayabiliyorlar m\u0131? Geri d\u00f6nenlere bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131zda neler g\u00f6r\u00fcyorsunuz? 150 y\u0131la yak\u0131n ge\u00e7en s\u00fcre i\u00e7erisinde neler de\u011fi\u015fti?<\/p>\n<p><strong>HAPAE Arambiy:<\/strong> Ba\u015fka halklarla birlikte ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z zaman ister istemez onlar\u0131n \u00f6zelliklerini de al\u0131yorsunuz. Birlikte ya\u015fayan her halk gibi bizler de az ya da \u00e7ok birlikte ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z halklardan etkilendik. Daha \u00f6nce olmayan bir\u00e7ok \u015fey Adige xabzenin i\u00e7ine girdi.<\/p>\n<p>Bizim buradaki konumumuz d\u0131\u015far\u0131dakilerden daha farkl\u0131. Biz bir millete kat\u0131lmad\u0131k Ruslar geldi bize kat\u0131ld\u0131. Art\u0131k d\u00fcnyada her millet birbirinden bir \u015fekilde etkileniyor. D\u00fcnya yaln\u0131z ya\u015fanan bir yer de\u011fil.<\/p>\n<p>D\u0131\u015far\u0131daki Adigeler kendi dillerini b\u00fcy\u00fck oranda kaybettiler ama Adige olma bilincini kaybetmediler. Bug\u00fcn buraya yerle\u015fenlerin bir k\u0131sm\u0131 buraya ne Adigece ne Rus\u00e7a bilmeden geldiler. \u015eimdi onlar\u0131n \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131 burada do\u011fanlardan ay\u0131ram\u0131yoruz. Bir nesilde bu ger\u00e7ekle\u015fti\u011fine g\u00f6re bizi zul\u00fcmle, azapla s\u00fcrd\u00fckleri topraklara geri d\u00f6n\u00fcp tekrar bir olmam\u0131za engel olacak b\u00fcy\u00fck farkl\u0131l\u0131klar yok. Geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f o kadar da zor de\u011fil. Bu konuda olduk\u00e7a umutluyum.<\/p>\n<p>Bizim Kafkas-Rus sava\u015flar\u0131, s\u00fcrg\u00fcn, geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f \u00fczerinde bu kadar durmam\u0131z\u0131n nedeni Adigelerin bu sava\u015flardan en \u00e7ok zarar g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015f halk olmalar\u0131d\u0131r. Tabii ki Kafkasya\u2019daki halklar da o d\u00f6nemde \u00e7ok zorluklar \u00e7ektiler ama Adige halk\u0131n\u0131n n\u00fcfusunun \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fu s\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc i\u00e7in k\u00f6k\u00fc k\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f oldu. Hala ayaklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcnde duram\u0131yoruz. Kimine g\u00f6re y\u00fcz binlerce kimine g\u00f6re milyondan fazla insan\u0131m\u0131z \u00f6ld\u00fc. \u00d6len insanlara bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z zaman toplum i\u00e7in en yararl\u0131 gen\u00e7 insanlard\u0131. Bu da felaketin b\u00fcy\u00fckl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc g\u00f6steriyor. \u00a0O kadar kay\u0131p yetmezmi\u015f gibi sonra halk olarak bir de s\u00fcrg\u00fcn\u00fc ya\u015fad\u0131k Bu y\u00fczden bu sava\u015flardan ve sonu\u00e7lar\u0131ndan bu kadar \u00e7ok bahsediyoruz.<\/p>\n<p><strong> \u00c7ETAO Nadir Ya\u011fan: <\/strong>Buradaki Adigeler sizce diasporan\u0131n geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcne s\u0131cak bak\u0131yor mu?<\/p>\n<p><strong>HAPAE Arambiy:<\/strong> Burada halk i\u00e7inde \u015faka yollu s\u00f6ylenen bir s\u00f6z var. \u201dSava\u015ftan sonra bir yere hareket edebilecek olanlar durumu en iyi olanlard\u0131r. \u0130mkanlar\u0131 olanlar gittiler, g\u00fcc\u00fc olmayanlar, zay\u0131flar burada kald\u0131\u201c deniliyor. \u015eaka yollu s\u00f6yleseler de bana kal\u0131rsa her \u015fakada ger\u00e7ek pay\u0131 vard\u0131r. Bir k\u0131s\u0131m insan b\u00f6yle d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n<p>O y\u00fczden d\u00f6n\u00fcp gelenlere \u201cGelmesinler, gittikleri yerlerde kals\u0131nlar\u201d diyen de var<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOnlar gelmezse biz burada bir halk olarak ya\u015fayamay\u0131z\u201c diyen de.<\/p>\n<p>Bana g\u00f6re ise buradan \u00e7\u0131kanlar kendi istekleriyle \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131lar. Y\u0131llarca s\u00fcren sava\u015flar oldu. En vatanperverler \u00f6nce \u00f6ld\u00fcler. Buradan \u00e7\u0131kma karar\u0131n\u0131 alabilmek kolay bir \u015fey de\u011fildir. Toplumsal bir olay bu.<\/p>\n<p>Geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015fe ne burada ya\u015fayanlar ne de buraya d\u00f6nen birka\u00e7 y\u00fcz ki\u015fi karar veremez. Buna karar verecek olan d\u00fcnyaya yay\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olan Adige halk\u0131n\u0131n iradesidir. Bu da zamanla olacakt\u0131r. \u201dGelmesinler\u201d diyenler \u00f6nemsizdir.<\/p>\n<p>D\u0131\u015far\u0131daki Adigelerin i\u00e7inde de \u201cNiye gidece\u011fiz? Orada xabze kalmad\u0131 bir \u015fey kalmad\u0131\u201d diyenlere rastlan\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p>Hayat\u0131n ger\u00e7e\u011fi bu. Mesela Yahudiler de kendi \u00fclkelerine ilk d\u00f6nd\u00fcklerinde oras\u0131 ho\u015flar\u0131na gitmedi.<\/p>\n<p>Buradaki Almanlardan \u00fclkelerine geri d\u00f6nenler oluyor ve \u201c Niye geliyorlar bunlar\u201d diyenler oluyor Alman toplumunda.<\/p>\n<p>Greklerden de gidenler oluyor, orada ya\u015fayamay\u0131p da geri d\u00f6n\u00fcp buraya gelenler var. Yunanistan\u2019da ya\u015fayanlardan baz\u0131lar\u0131 \u201c \u00c7ok fazla geliyorlar\u201d diye kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Bu durum sadece bize \u00f6zg\u00fc de\u011fil.<\/p>\n<p>Benim as\u0131l vurgulamak istedi\u011fim \u015fey birtak\u0131m insanlar bundan ho\u015fnut olsa da olmasa da burada kalan Adigeler Adige \u00fclkesinde hangi haklara sahipseler, \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckleri ne kadar geni\u015fse d\u0131\u015far\u0131dan gelen Adigeler de ister iyi olsunlar ister k\u00f6t\u00fc olsunlar bizimle ayn\u0131 haklara sahiptirler. K\u00f6t\u00fc de olsalar iyi de olsalar insano\u011flunun herkesten \u00f6nce g\u00fcvenece\u011fi ki\u015filer annesi, babas\u0131, karde\u015fleridir. Adigeler haricinde Adigelerin sorunlar\u0131yla u\u011fra\u015facak kimse yoktur.<\/p>\n<p><strong> \u00c7ETAO Nadir Ya\u011fan: <\/strong>Diasporada da ilgi uyand\u0131ran \u00fc\u00e7 cumhuriyetin birle\u015ftirilmesi konusunda neler s\u00f6yleyeceksiniz?<\/p>\n<p><strong>HAPAE Arambiy:<\/strong> Adigelerin d\u00fcnyadaki genel durumuna bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m zaman s\u00f6yleyebilece\u011fim \u015fey bize en geni\u015f haklar\u0131 tan\u0131yan \u00fclkenin Rusya Federasyonu oldu\u011fudur. Benim istedi\u011fim \u015fey RF i\u00e7inde Adige halk\u0131 olarak bir tek cumhuriyet \u00e7at\u0131s\u0131 alt\u0131nda toplanabilmektir. B\u00f6ylece varl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131, \u00e7\u0131karlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 daha ileri g\u00f6t\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015f oluruz. Biz burada tek bir Adige cumhuriyeti olabiliriz. Rusya Federasyonu\u2019nun i\u00e7inde tek bir Adige cumhuriyeti olmayacak bir \u015fey de\u011fildir.<\/p>\n<p><strong> \u00c7ETAO Nadir Ya\u011fan: <\/strong>Adige Xase ba\u015fkan\u0131 olarak T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki Adigelere vermek istedi\u011finiz bir mesaj var m\u0131? Halen orada olanlara ne s\u00f6ylemek istersiniz?<\/p>\n<p>Adigeler buradan s\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fckten sonra ba\u015fka yerlerde ya\u015famak zorunda kald\u0131lar. Y\u00fcz binlerce insan\u0131n bir yerden ba\u015fka bir yere yerle\u015fimi kolay bir \u015fey de\u011fil. Gittikleri yerlerde k\u00f6t\u00fc g\u00fcnler de ge\u00e7irmi\u015f olsalar iyi \u015feyler de ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f olmal\u0131lar ki \u015fu ana kadar varl\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcrd\u00fcler.<\/p>\n<p>Zorunlu olarak gittiklerinden beri benim karde\u015flerim orada ya\u015f\u0131yor. \u00a0Karde\u015flerimin i\u00e7lerinden iyi de \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015ft\u0131r k\u00f6t\u00fc de. \u0130yi insanlar daha fazla \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f olmal\u0131 ki, bug\u00fcne kadar T\u00fcrk halk\u0131yla birlikte ya\u015fad\u0131lar. Bu y\u00fczden T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki Adigelere bir \u015feyler s\u00f6ylemeden \u00f6nce T\u00fcrk halk\u0131na te\u015fekk\u00fcr etmek isterim.<\/p>\n<p>T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ya\u015fayan Adigelerden ise iste\u011fim \u015fudur: Bir milletin en az\u0131ndan yar\u0131s\u0131na yak\u0131n\u0131 kendi \u00fclkesinde ya\u015farsa halk varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcrebilir, \u00a0her \u015fey daha kolay olur. \u00a0Buradaki n\u00fcfusu lehimize dengelemeliyiz. Ayr\u0131ca orada kal\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u00fcrece birbirimize gittik\u00e7e yabanc\u0131la\u015f\u0131yoruz. Buraya gelip yerle\u015femeyeceklerse de onlar\u0131n y\u00f6nleri bu tarafa d\u00f6n\u00fck olmal\u0131d\u0131r. \u00a0Kendileri gelemiyorlarsa da \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131, karde\u015flerini bu tarafa y\u00f6nlendirmeliler.<\/p>\n<p>Bir g\u00fcn mutlaka bir olmal\u0131y\u0131z.<\/p>\n<p><strong> \u00c7ETAO Nadir Ya\u011fan: <\/strong>Verdi\u011finiz bilgiler i\u00e7in te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederiz say\u0131n Hapae.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&Ccedil;ETAO Nadir Ya&#287;an Maykop, 31 Ocak 2009 Adigey&rsquo;deki Te&#287;oyhable k&ouml;y&uuml;nde do&#287;dum. K&ouml;y&uuml;m&uuml;z Adigey&rsquo;in en k&uuml;&ccedil;&uuml;k ama ismi &ccedil;ok eskilere dayanan k&ouml;ylerinden biridir. &Ccedil;ETAO Nadir Ya&#287;an: Adige diasporas&#305;n&#305;n varl&#305;&#287;&#305;yla ilgili &nbsp;neler d&uuml;&#351;&uuml;n&uuml;yorsunuz? 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